cleric/rogue of Mask 3.5

[Weaveshear2012]

Hi everyone! i would like some advice on vey much everything about tje build described in the subject section . we play forgotten realms so everything from another campaign setting is not permitted.multiclass is allowed to a max of 2 classes and one prestige class. We don't roll dice we have a total of 83 attribute points that we distribute the way he want (max18 before racial adjustments). I don't have settled around any particular role but i suppose he ought not to be a heal bot. i have plaed many rogues during my shirt D&D experience but i know how to build one efficiently. Never a vleric, and mad troubles me quite a lot  . I don't know the exact level but i suppose we are going to start around 8-12 and achieve a miximum of 15,(sorry for any mistakes and thanks for your help in advance )no flaws allowed . As for class alternatives one or two (same with variants)

[xaotiq1]

Well, you shouldn't worry about MAD. With 83 points I got Str:16, DEX:18, CON:16, INT:16,WIS:18 & CHA:18 with 2 points left over.

Classwise, go cloistered cleric to keep those skill points up. I'd suggest domain feats; Knowledge Trickery and Travel Devotion specifically.

When it comes to rogues, I usually go the skillmonkey, scout,trapfinder type, so I'll not be much help here.

I'd say as far as PrC goes, maybe reflavor the Temple Raider of Ollidamara (Complete Scoundrel or Adventurer?) or, if you can use Tome of Battle, the Ruby Knight Vindicator (also reflavored). 

[Wiggins]

lol, I think he meant 83 points from 0, not an 83 point buy 

It's still a lot, not an amount I'd be worried about mad at. I'd say it's a bit better than a 38 point buy even, so long as you don't spread yourself too thin

Look at something like 18, 18, 14, 13, 10, 10?

2 Classes and a Prestige?

Cloistered Cleric is a definite if you can get Unearthed Arcana, and yes, I'd also support some switches from Domain to Devotion (see Complete Champion)

Is it just Eberron, Dragonlance etc. that're out of bounds?

[TenaciousJ]

Use cloistered cleric and you should not need any rogue levels.  The Trickery domain should give you access to more roguish skills, and the free Knowledge domain should be of use too.  The only other decent domain Mask offers is Luck, but you could trade for a devotion feat out of Complete Champion.  Trickery Devotion is a lot of fun if you want to be deceptive.

Why do you want to be a healbot?  It's not even close to the most useful thing you can do and it's somewhat at odds with wanting to be roguish.

[Nunkuruji]

Telflammar Shadowlord is typically associated with Mask.

The Black Flame Zealot from Complete Divine is a Rogue/Cleric progression. One interesting entry is via Generic Spellcaster.

Clerics of Shar have a lot more going for them as far as the associated Prestige Classes and sneakyness options go.

[NiteCyper]

Why do you want to be a healbot?  It's not even close to the most useful thing you can do and it's somewhat at odds with wanting to be roguish.

I don't have settled around any particular role but i suppose he ought not to be a heal bot.

Emphasis mine.

[Wiggins]

Could you have 1 core class and 2 prestige classes?

[Volfogg]

You could try the following:

rogue 2/cloistered cleric 8/divine trickster 10

Just pick up the Sacred Outlaw feat (Dragon Magazine 357) and Practised Spellcaster. This way you'll have a caster level of 20 and full sneak attack.

Some other feats worth mentioning:

• Weapon Finesse
• Intuitive Strike
• Knowledge Devotion
• Travel Devotion (if applicable)
• Divine Metamagic
• Staggering Strike
• Telling Blow
• Craven
• Improved Initiative

Anyhoo, hope that helps some.

Cheers
Volf

[X-Codes]

DWK Cloistered Cleric (Kobold and Trickery domains, Knowledge Devotion) 1 -> cheese entry to Singer of Concordance 10.  Finish with more Cloistered Cleric.

[Weaveshear2012]

everything out of the FR campaign setting is banned, so i cannot have temple raider of olidamarra, xaotiq1 i did not mean point buy, it would be ridiculous, but this one is equally flexible. any link for the sacred outlaw feat(i cannot find the dragon magazine online to take a look at it)?Telflammar Shadowlord is typically associated with Mask.

in which book is this PrC? haven't heard of it. i know that DWK kobolds are completely broken , so he will not allow them  .
Volfogg ,  this seems the best choice so far but i don't particularly like divine trickster( but for certain i m not turning it down). I  know shar is way better than MAsk but i want try a Cleric of his ( just for flavour, i m sure you understand),

[Wiggins]

The Telflammar Shadow Lord  is from the Forgotten Realms book Unapproachable East.

It's not a Cleric prestige though, with arcane casting abilities similar to an assassin.

If you have access to teleporting by any other means it's excellent to dip into for a few levels, and the key to many nightcrawler type builds, for example mine is Human Skilled City-Dweller Drow Fighter 2/ Warblade 2/ Cloistered Cleric of Wee Jas 1 (Knowledge Devotion, Law Devotion, Magic Domain)/ Ruby Knight Vindicator 6/ Warblade +1/ Telflammar Shadow Lord 4/ Ruby Knight Vindicator +1/ Warblade +3.

[Weaveshear2012]

i just looked at it and.... it seemed pretty cool. i would like a cleric/rogue , in order to have some spells like non-detection (favourite ) . the RP is going of course to be roguey, and that's where Mask kicks in.( his clerics usually dip rogue levels and they do not behave as your usual priest). I also WANTED the cleric to imitate Erevis CAle ( up to a point of course), i hadn't seen the template , which makes everything all the sweeter, and the Telflammar Shadow Lord is is a damn good PrC. Last time i played a wizard around 13 lv, and tried to steal from the best magic equipment shop in Luskan. i ended up killing the shopkeeper ( 15 lv wizard ) but that son of a b.... DM due to his "just" nature could not allow an assassination and cheated us about six times in 1 playing hour. so i want this one to take "revenge", and have some real fun as with the previous character. this way  i will teleport out of the city in an instant = out of the AoE of the "city's scrying network. but i also want him to be efficient in combat and not being a hindrance for the rest of the party.( supposing he would be acleric he would be the primary divine caster , but now is the skillmonkey -sneak attacker , who everyone else fears . ( my chars tend to be optimized , so i always end up having the most efficient character in the party . if anyine else doesn't have anything to add , it would be good to proceed with the items.

[Weaveshear2012]

as for items i usualy leave my weapons for last( when playing a rogue) and start from the skill equipment.

[Wiggins]

Yeah, the template is OK, though not as good as the rituals Shar clerics get, as we said before.

If you take said template, remember to get yourself some Sundark Glasses from Races of the Dragon

[Weaveshear2012]

hahahahaa, either way i never leave my home without a pair of those  . good thing is their hilarious cost 200gp! .

[Weaveshear2012]

so frget the cleric part , item suggestions for this sneaky fellow? I am sure to go 2wf and hold a warning weapon in my off hand and  an assassination *city scape web enchantment in the main. never cared about armor but if anyone has to suggest anything worthwile i will try it. the thing is i cannot really decide due to the whole wondrous item range that is. i especially  have a hard time choosing bracers( too many WONDERFUL options  ).  i also wanted to ask about the variation of the bootss of strding & springing , the boots of striding , how much would they cost?