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Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« on: September 20, 2012, 07:25:23 AM »
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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 01:21:43 PM »
A more complete review will demand first reading Desire Drive more carefully, but for now a couple questions:
-What action is placing a new Ofuda Seal? Can you stack a "deck" of them to save time?

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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 01:37:25 PM »
Ah! Good thinking.
I put a clause to state that the ofuda takes the Face item slot. So it'd take the same action required to equip one.
So it would work like wearing multiple magical rings; only the last one you put on gives benefits.
If you have 2 ofudas and use the last one put on you, you can use the other one if it becomes a mundane piece of paper.
(So it wouldn't happen if it was so sort of special rechargeable ofuda with other Face magic item properties put on it.)

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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 01:47:52 PM »
I thought in the mythology/shows, people put the ofudas on their forehead to incapacitate them (like a stake through the heart for Western vampires)?
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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2012, 02:02:27 PM »
That's for evil spirits/monsters.

However the oriental version of the zombie is animated precisely by puting a special ofuda over a corpse's forehead.

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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 03:40:01 PM »
Nah, the ofuda have commands written on them. Generally with no commands they regain some of their mind and/or go berserk (eg. when Yoshika's charm was removed she started writing poetry again without realising what she was doing), but in some depictions they need to be commanded to not be a corpse at all times.

Shouldn't that stiffness translate into a Dex penalty?

I also have concerns that using ToBhou makes this class insufficiently generic.
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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 03:59:17 PM »
Shouldn't that stiffness translate into a Dex penalty?
Some creatures are limbless or can only roll around and yet take no penalty to Dex.
Like most creatures, they simply adapt to use their bodies and condition efficiently in combat.

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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 08:00:48 PM »
Nah, the ofuda have commands written on them. Generally with no commands they regain some of their mind and/or go berserk (eg. when Yoshika's charm was removed she started writing poetry again without realising what she was doing), but in some depictions they need to be commanded to not be a corpse at all times.
Actual myth:
The Jiang Shi is the base lower soul left in the body after death. It only has feral cunning, hunger, lust, wrath, you know, the inner beast. The thing is such a soul with an already dead body is practically unstoppable by brute force, they can be horrendously fast, if stiff, and similarly strong.

The Taoist controls(or restricts, for weaker priests who can only barely suppress the body's instincts) its activity with the Ofuda. This replaces the missing higher soul with a set of instructions and programming. Losing it means they revert to their feral state and do whatever. However, they can also become possessed, without an Ofuda sealing it, a ghost can just dock right into the corpse for a joyride.

They are often blind, but can sense Chi(aka life force) through the breath. They feed on this or living flesh, they can kiss and suck out all your life. The more of it they have the more lively they look, and the better they fake being alive, as well as control their instincts. Also more powerful of course.

They can be stopped by fire, or complete dismembering, though there are a few other methods that can distract it using its lower soul(which again is based on the basic instincts and pretty easy to distract).

Finally, making it an initiator seems to take away quite a lot from it's actual talents.
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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 08:57:19 PM »
though there are a few other methods that can distract it using its lower soul(which again is based on the basic instincts and pretty easy to distract).
IIRC like throwing money on the ground. Right?
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Re: Jiang Shi (Hopping Vampire)
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 09:23:00 PM »
Yep, because their inner obsessive-compulsive can't get overridden, except maybe by their inner psychopath.
Everything is edible. Just that there are things only edible once per lifetime.
It's a god-eat-god world.

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And to the mercies of a moment leaves; The vast concerns of an eternal scene.