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Offline Braininthejar

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can a summoned creature be charmed
« on: June 14, 2012, 04:31:05 PM »
What happens is someone casts "charm monster" on a creature brought in by a "summon monster" spell? Can it be made to disobey orders?

What about "dominate monster"?

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Re: can a summoned creature be charmed
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 04:57:13 PM »
My best guess is that it would fall under this category.

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Sometimes magical effects that establish mental control render each other irrelevant, such as a spell that removes the subjects ability to act. Mental controls that don’t remove the recipient’s ability to act usually do not interfere with each other. If a creature is under the mental control of two or more creatures, it tends to obey each to the best of its ability, and to the extent of the control each effect allows. If the controlled creature receives conflicting orders simultaneously, the competing controllers must make opposed Charisma checks to determine which one the creature obeys.
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Re: can a summoned creature be charmed
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 05:54:02 PM »
So, with two charm effects they overlap.

With domination vs charm, domination takes precedence (since it directly controls, rather then influencing behaviour) but trying to make the creature attack the charmer is "against its nature"?