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Hmm... I'm going off an assumption here...
« on: July 20, 2012, 02:45:39 PM »
Namely, that Sword of the Arcane Order is Arcane casting, because it explicitly states Wizard spells, and not "spells from the Wizard/Sorcerer spell list", thus implying that they are spells as they would be prepared by a Wizard.

Also, I disagree with the interpretation that Prestige Paladin's turn all of your spells into Paladin spells. Nice try, bucko.

Anyway:

LG Hellbred Paladin 5/Knight of the Raven 3/Geomancer 4/Knight of the Raven +7/Something that advances BAB and CL 1
Feats: Battle Blessing, Sword of the Arcane Order.

BAB of 18-19; full Paladin spellcasting, Wizard spellcasting up to 4th level, with Battle Blessing allowing them to Quicken damn near anything.

On top of that, Hellbred means that I get all the Consecrated, Vile, and Corrupt spells onto my Paladin.

If I wasn't restricted to being a Paladin of one of two groups, I would be a Paladin of Pelor at this point.  :D
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Re: Hmm... I'm going off an assumption here...
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 02:58:45 PM »
Namely, that Sword of the Arcane Order is Arcane casting, because it explicitly states Wizard spells, and not "spells from the Wizard/Sorcerer spell list", thus implying that they are spells as they would be prepared by a Wizard.

Also, I disagree with the interpretation that Prestige Paladin's turn all of your spells into Paladin spells. Nice try, bucko.

Anyway:

LG Hellbred Paladin 5/Knight of the Raven 3/Geomancer 4/Knight of the Raven +7/Something that advances BAB and CL 1
Feats: Battle Blessing, Sword of the Arcane Order.

BAB of 18-19; full Paladin spellcasting, Wizard spellcasting up to 4th level, with Battle Blessing allowing them to Quicken damn near anything.

On top of that, Hellbred means that I get all the Consecrated, Vile, and Corrupt spells onto my Paladin.

If I wasn't restricted to being a Paladin of one of two groups, I would be a Paladin of Pelor at this point.  :D


Wouldn't your interpretation work against that, though?  If they're Wizard spells...and not just "spells from the Wizard spell list"...then, by definition, they're not Paladin spells, and as such, wouldn't be viable candidates for Battle Blessing.  I suppose Geomancer might mitigate that, but...ugh.  I've always thought that particular Geomancer ability was very poorly worded.  Is "Wizard spell" or "Paladin spell" a "spellcasting parameter" that can be altered?
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Re: Hmm... I'm going off an assumption here...
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 03:48:29 PM »
I'm going by "Paladin spell" as a parameter.

Yes, it is badly worded. Now I need to go find something with absolutely silly parameters, like... what are they called? They cast their spells as SLAs?

Yeah, auto-Quickened SLAs are... something.
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Re: Hmm... I'm going off an assumption here...
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 05:12:33 PM »
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Re: Hmm... I'm going off an assumption here...
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 05:20:45 PM »
Them's the ones!

Another thing we could use it for are Bladesingers; if I remember correctly, don't they get class features that would actually be pretty good if their spell list didn't suck?
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