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Offline Baran

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Edition Weirdness
« on: September 01, 2012, 09:09:17 PM »
I just found out that Masters of the Wild is fair game in the game I'm playing, so instead of being a Master of Many Forms, I decided to go with Shifter, and, while by 15th level I'll get virtually unlimited forms, changeable once per round as a move action, I'm a little confused as to whether I get their (Ex) abilities or not. I did some digging into the way 3.0 wild shape is supposed to work, and came up with this:

 (http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html)

Wild Shape: At 5th level, a druid gains the spell-like ability to polymorph self into a Small or Medium-size animal (but not a dire animal) and back again once per day. Unlike the standard use of the spell, however, the druid may only adopt one form. As stated in the spell description, the druid regains hit points as if he or she has rested for a day. The druid does not risk the standard penalty for being disoriented while in the wild shape.


Polymorph Self:
The polymorphed character acquires the physical and natural abilities of the creature he or she has been polymorphed into while retaining his or her own mind. Physical abilities include natural size and Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores. Natural abilities include armor, natural weapons, and similar gross physical qualities.  A body with extra limbs does not allow a character to make more attacks (or more advantageous two-weapon attacks) than normal.  Natural abilities also include mundane movement capabilities, but not magical flight and other magical forms of travel. Extremely high speeds for certain creatures are the result of magical ability, so they are not granted by this spell. Other nonmagical abilities (such as low-light vision) are considered natural abilities and are retained.

"nonmagical ability" suggests (Ex) abilities to me, and low-light vision specifically is an (Ex) ability. Does this mean that I'm supposed get (Ex) abilities from first level?

Offline Halinn

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Re: Edition Weirdness
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 09:10:31 AM »
It states what it means by natural abilities (armor, natural weapons, physical qualities). If it's a feature of the body, you get it. If it's something that's granted, learned by the creatures, a special attack not linked to a physical quality etc., you don't