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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #80 on: August 12, 2012, 12:57:54 PM »
How's that wording for Blistering Tempo?

Now complete immunity is easier to pass than resistances when you deal less damage than the resistance.

If you deal 10 damage to a creature with fire resistance 20, you need a check result (after penalties) of more than 10 to deal any damage, whereas complete immunity (same penalties) would deal damage starting above 0.

I never understood why the stance progressions of Crusader/Warblade usually take place the level before new stances became available (like the 4th level one in Warblade's case whose progression you are using). You practically are required to dip two levels in another class just to get things to work out right.

How about getting stances at 1/5/10/15/20? You get 1st and 3rd level stances on time, 5th level stance is only a level late, the choice of a 7th or 8th at level 15 (the only 6th level stance is just the Desert Wind one that adds 1d6 fire damage on attacks, that I don't think anyone would take anyhow) and an extra one of any maneuver level at level 20 for the dedicated. And it looks all orderly too.

I kinda like the current progression. It gives tradeoffs and benefits for multiclassing, thus making multiclassing more interesting, one of ToB's strengths.

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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2012, 01:17:00 PM »
How's that wording for Blistering Tempo?

Now complete immunity is easier to pass than resistances when you deal less damage than the resistance.

If you deal 10 damage to a creature with fire resistance 20, you need a check result (after penalties) of more than 10 to deal any damage, whereas complete immunity (same penalties) would deal damage starting above 0.

OK, that's not what I meant at all.  I see how that happened, though.  How's the newest version?

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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #82 on: August 12, 2012, 02:02:27 PM »

What do we think of a variant Song of the White Raven for this class?  Which discipline works best?  Maybe Dancing Goddess...

I'd say Dancing Goddess or Dancing Fox, seeing the effects of both schools.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #83 on: August 12, 2012, 02:18:26 PM »
How's that wording for Blistering Tempo?

Now complete immunity is easier to pass than resistances when you deal less damage than the resistance.

If you deal 10 damage to a creature with fire resistance 20, you need a check result (after penalties) of more than 10 to deal any damage, whereas complete immunity (same penalties) would deal damage starting above 0.

OK, that's not what I meant at all.  I see how that happened, though.  How's the newest version?

Current version looks good. I'd change it from applying a 10 + resistance penalty to comparing your result to 10 + resistance, though. I'm not 100% sold on immunity being the equivalent of resist 20. Personally, I'd value it as either 30 (max resistance granted by Resist Energy) or 50 (max resistance that I know of short of immunity in a printed monster).

Edit: The things I thought might have had resistance 50 didn't. Not sure what I was thinking of, then.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #84 on: August 12, 2012, 02:23:04 PM »
How's that wording for Blistering Tempo?

Now complete immunity is easier to pass than resistances when you deal less damage than the resistance.

If you deal 10 damage to a creature with fire resistance 20, you need a check result (after penalties) of more than 10 to deal any damage, whereas complete immunity (same penalties) would deal damage starting above 0.

OK, that's not what I meant at all.  I see how that happened, though.  How's the newest version?

Current version looks good. I'd change it from applying a 10 + resistance penalty to comparing your result to 10 + resistance, though. I'm not 100% sold on immunity being the equivalent of resist 20. Personally, I'd value it as either 30 (max resistance granted by Resist Energy) or 50 (max resistance that I know of short of immunity in a printed monster).

Comparing is just a DC with a coat of paint; having it be a penalty makes the explanation significantly cleaner (I tried both ways, this was easier).  I'll alter the numerage, though.


What do we think of a variant Song of the White Raven for this class?  Which discipline works best?  Maybe Dancing Goddess...

I'd say Dancing Goddess or Dancing Fox, seeing the effects of both schools.

I'm actually going to tie it to wardance, not a discipline.  Makes much more sense.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2012, 02:34:22 PM »
Okeydokey, two new feats up.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2012, 07:23:35 PM »
I love the picture, but... just what in the hell is she wearing? Ass-less chaps?
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2012, 07:26:15 PM »
I love the picture, but... just what in the hell is she wearing? Ass-less chaps?

Miniskirt + speedo + thigh-high boots.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2012, 07:28:13 PM »
Thats no skirt.That is a belt.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2012, 07:29:37 PM »
Thats no skirt.That is a belt.

Your mom's a belt.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #90 on: August 13, 2012, 09:06:04 AM »
I love the picture, but... just what in the hell is she wearing? Ass-less chaps?

Miniskirt + speedo + thigh-high boots.

Yeah. They're thigh-high boots being kept in place by being strapped to a garter. Seen a woman dressed like that (minus the shoulder armor and weapons) IRL. :)
Same hair color too.

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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #91 on: October 02, 2012, 12:18:18 PM »
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SirP, you may want to update the link for Dancing Fox.

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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #92 on: October 02, 2012, 12:27:16 PM »
"Thread Necro" (sung to the tune of Goldfinger)

SirP, you may want to update the link for Dancing Fox.

I prefer "Moon River".  Updating, thank you :)
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #93 on: October 11, 2012, 11:53:24 PM »
The "special" table looks messed up.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #94 on: October 12, 2012, 12:24:40 AM »
It looks fine to me.  If your browser maximized?

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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2012, 12:46:35 AM »
It looks fine to me.  If your browser maximized?
Yes. I'm using Chromium (Chrome) in Ubuntu. So it's probably related to that.
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Re: Wardancer (3.5 base)
« Reply #96 on: October 12, 2012, 07:18:57 AM »
What's the problem with it?  What's your screen resolution?

The only problem with the columnar tables is that they resize independently; if the table is too wide, some of the columns get larger and some don't.
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