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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2012, 09:33:02 AM »
reading over the linked description... it appears to grant an untyped bonus to armor class. i was expecting it to say armor or natural armor, but it simply says bonus, which makes it untyped, yes?

in which case, you could wear bracers of armor and an amulet of natural armor with it, since they do not count as armor, and they  should both stack. it seems shields are nixed too, as it lists "any kind of armor". psionics granting insight bonuses to ac should also work.

i suppose that being able to grow scales and shed them pretty much at will (if not exactly in a timely fashion) might be useful in various rp situations where you need to unmistakably appear different without needing magic, psionics, or a disguise check. just be sure to keep a dustpan handy.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2012, 10:38:42 AM »
It could have a use with a VoP character.......

Unfortunately, it wouldn't. It says it doesn't stack with feats that grant bonuses to AC.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2012, 11:21:16 AM »
It could have a use with a VoP character.......
Yeah, that was the same conclusion my group came to as well. That or a low magic campaign.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2012, 12:05:22 PM »
It could have a use with a VoP character.......
VoP is a feat. It wouldn't stack with the armor bonus from VoP.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2012, 02:06:02 PM »
Yes,now that I have read the descripton it wouldn't work with VoP, but I think it should(houserule) since if you take VoP your options are allready limited,no need to limit them further....

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2012, 05:00:02 PM »
oh, of course i agree that it SHOULD stack with many things that by RAW it doesn't stack with
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2012, 06:10:22 PM »
I guess it would be fine if you dont have any of the said abilities applying AC to your character.
Bracers of Armor could cover the need for enhancements.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2012, 03:45:51 AM »
mentioned that.

and not only that, but lesser armor crystals would work with a dragon husk.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2012, 01:41:41 AM »
Is it masterwork? You might talk to your DM about shoving them on your bracers, though. Or something. But, yeah, looks like magic items are the only way to go, as long as they aren't really armor.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 01:42:18 AM »
Is it masterwork? You might talk to your DM about shoving them on your bracers, though. Or something. But, yeah, looks like magic items are the only way to go, as long as they aren't really armor.
It's not masterwork.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2012, 01:50:36 AM »
So no least crystals. And without the option of giving it an enhancement bonus, you can't use other crystals.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2012, 01:56:21 AM »
Reading over, then reading it again backwards, sideways, and upside down, I can only come to this conclusion: it is crap, and to un-crap it would take so many changes that it would be a rule you made yourself rather than a modification.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2012, 12:05:38 PM »
Is it masterwork? You might talk to your DM about shoving them on your bracers, though. Or something. But, yeah, looks like magic items are the only way to go, as long as they aren't really armor.
It's not masterwork.

whoops. thank you. though, for the record, i once got away with claiming that my monk character was masterwork. that was probably more for the laugh it generated than for the fluff logic.

hmmmm. i think it would be interesting if the handiwork of the gods (ie: races) were considered masterwork. or maybe only certain types or subtypes.... or maybe monks, due to the rigorous diet and exercise and eventually achieving the outsider(native) type. it couldn't hurt the class.
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2012, 01:59:22 PM »
Racial paragon levels?
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2012, 04:11:33 PM »
Racial paragon levels?

those should make one count as masterwork, too.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2012, 05:40:18 PM »
In a sense, PC levels alone could make a person count as masterwork. After all, the "common" version are NPC classes, and if masterwork items are exceptional quality things and characters with class levels are exceptional quality people, then by that logic anyone who has class levels is a masterwork person.

All this of course is nonsense, but fun nonsense nonetheless.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2012, 12:50:13 AM »
worth a laugh, but i definitely don't look the part of a masterwork weapon, more of a grognard look if only i had a beard, but i made the mistake of phrasing my claim for my monk as, "i'm a monk! my whole body is a masterwork weapon!" after a stunned look at me saying this, everyone laughed their heads off. i think the laugh was the real reason the dm let it slide for my character.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2012, 12:08:06 PM »
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/masterwork-transformation
I don't suppose applying that to an unarmed strike would help?
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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2012, 03:54:16 PM »
Unfortunately it specifically says it fails if the item has no masterwork equivalent.

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Re: Dragon Magic Husk
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2012, 04:04:58 PM »
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/masterwork-transformation
I don't suppose applying that to an unarmed strike would help?

it might fail because of this line:
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If the target object has no masterwork equivalent, the spell has no effect.

some would argue that an unarmed strike even if considered a weapon via the monk ability does not have a masterwork version.