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Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« on: April 26, 2013, 01:14:33 PM »
Aside from humanoids with NPC classes (such as an elf warrior), are there any creatures with fewer HD than CR?

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 01:20:31 PM »
Ogre Mage comes to mind.

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 02:25:29 PM »
Grig and pixie too
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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 03:10:01 PM »
Rakshasa.
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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 03:19:03 PM »
Sharn, Phaerimm

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 03:49:02 PM »
Noble Djinni too. Ah, heck, back to the drawing board... Thanks, guys! :)

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 04:12:52 PM »
Ah, heck, back to the drawing board...
What is it you are trying to accomplish?  If you can tell us that, we may be able to help you.

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 05:56:53 PM »
Ah, heck, back to the drawing board...
What is it you are trying to accomplish?  If you can tell us that, we may be able to help you.

Let's see if I can articulate this... I'm basically trying to enable the learning of monster abilities as spell-like abilities by a class. Now, I won't be using regular spell limitations, but I must put some kind of limitation to stop a character from learning an ability too soon. It won't make much sense without seeing the whole class, but the character will need to pass a Knowledge check (DC 15+X) to identify the ability and a level check (10+Y) to actually learn it. Now, as this must be generalized, I'm trying to decide which statistic to base X and Y on. I think that, as flawed as it is, I'll have to go with CR. I'm trying to assess my options. I'm thinking if I should modify CR in some way, or HD, or anything really. This is still in brainstorm phase, so I'm not set on anything. I just don't want to face the same pitfalls that face the Truenamer.

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 06:12:34 PM »
Can they run abilities from different monsters simultaneously?

Regen+Fast Healing+Energy Resistance = yum.

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Re: Any creatures with fewer HD than CR?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 06:16:32 PM »
Can they run abilities from different monsters simultaneously?

Regen+Fast Healing+Energy Resistance = yum.

That's the idea, but there will be some limitations. Constant abilities specially will run for very few rounds. Such a combination would run simultaneously for some 3 rounds at most. And to initiate such an ability, it will take a swift action, so...