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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #920 on: September 20, 2013, 05:39:51 PM »
On the subject of prerequisites, I found this little gem, while searching for SCM stuff. Works really well with that (hey, I can have 9th-level Silent Images early), as well as working as a general early-entry trick anyways.
Little inferior to Metamagic Song, but nice I guess since you can Heighten to 9th level even through you only gain 6th level Spells.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #921 on: September 20, 2013, 05:55:02 PM »
I think DMM should have worked like Metamagic Song in the first place; let it apply to all MM, but cap the maximum level.
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #922 on: September 20, 2013, 11:30:52 PM »
Isn't there a race that gets unlimited uses of bardic music? I seem to remember mention of it somewhere on the boards. Seems like it would combo nicely.
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #923 on: September 21, 2013, 12:17:34 AM »
Isn't there a race that gets unlimited uses of bardic music? I seem to remember mention of it somewhere on the boards. Seems like it would combo nicely.
Firre Eladrin.  ECL 20 though, IIRC.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #924 on: September 21, 2013, 01:00:37 AM »
Isn't there a race that gets unlimited uses of bardic music? I seem to remember mention of it somewhere on the boards. Seems like it would combo nicely.
Firre Eladrin.  ECL 20 though, IIRC.

I believe that Outsider type, Assume Supernatural Ability, and Polymorph/Alter Self, etc. should let you use the bardic music ability, no? Working from memory, here.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #925 on: September 21, 2013, 01:32:43 AM »
I can't remember if its been said before...

Umbral Spell can metamagic a light spell, the spell becomes a light and darkness spell.

does it dispel itself because the feat says the Umbral spell dispels a light spell in the same radius of its level or lower?
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #926 on: September 21, 2013, 02:27:08 AM »
I think it would.

Sadly, I don't think there's a non-Homebrew way to give a spell the [Light] descriptor. Otherwise Explosive Runes.
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #927 on: September 21, 2013, 05:11:10 AM »
Isn't there a race that gets unlimited uses of bardic music? I seem to remember mention of it somewhere on the boards. Seems like it would combo nicely.
Firre Eladrin.  ECL 20 though, IIRC.

I believe that Outsider type, Assume Supernatural Ability, and Polymorph/Alter Self, etc. should let you use the bardic music ability, no? Working from memory, here.
Looks so.  Its 8 HD and LA +10 and the desired ability is (Su).  It isn't specifically Bardic Music though, even though it can do anything that ability can, and directly references said ability, so...

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #928 on: September 21, 2013, 01:09:55 PM »
Isn't there a race that gets unlimited uses of bardic music? I seem to remember mention of it somewhere on the boards. Seems like it would combo nicely.
Firre Eladrin.  ECL 20 though, IIRC.

I believe that Outsider type, Assume Supernatural Ability, and Polymorph/Alter Self, etc. should let you use the bardic music ability, no? Working from memory, here.
Looks so.  Its 8 HD and LA +10 and the desired ability is (Su).  It isn't specifically Bardic Music though, even though it can do anything that ability can, and directly references said ability, so...
Wizard 17/Warrior Skald 1 would qualify for either feat, and could gain the unlimited bardic music ability via Shapechange.

The same is true of Sorcerers, Druids, and Clerics with the Animal Domain.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #929 on: September 21, 2013, 01:51:11 PM »

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Wizard 17 / Warrior Skald 1 would qualify for either feat, and could gain the unlimited bardic music ability via Shapechange.


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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #930 on: September 22, 2013, 07:40:41 PM »
From Ghostwalk, the spell Bottomless Hate is a 2nd level Ranger spell that gives you a +1/3 CL Morale bonus to attack and damage against your Favored Enemies.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #931 on: September 22, 2013, 08:38:32 PM »
Bottomless Hate.

That actually looks worthy of taking Practiced Spellcaster for.

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #932 on: September 22, 2013, 08:48:19 PM »
Bottomless Hate.

That actually looks worthy of taking Practiced Spellcaster for.
If it had a swift action casting time, maybe...
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #933 on: September 22, 2013, 09:51:51 PM »
Archivist with one of the FR regional feats that gives you a favored enemy?

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #934 on: September 22, 2013, 11:22:45 PM »
Anyone remember where the quiver with infinite arrows is? There's one in the Dragon Compendium, but I could have sworn Wizards made one... perhaps on a web enhancement?

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #935 on: September 22, 2013, 11:40:37 PM »
Archivist with one of the FR regional feats that gives you a favored enemy?
Add a way to get FE: Evil, then we're talking. :P
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #936 on: September 22, 2013, 11:57:34 PM »
I remember some people over here using Kensai and Warchanter to enter the Dragon Ascendant PRC (it requires BAB +30)
Yup. Very old stuff. But hey new life into it is good. 3.5 will keep going strong at least until a new addition allows full conversion/import (seriously WotC you didn't learn from Pathfinder's one strength?)

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Hmm I never put two and two together...

Almost everything else makes you pay more for spells with costly material components or xp costs.  The most practical application of that loophole I can think of is an eternal wand of identify.  It costs 820 gp to buy it, but you save 100 gp each time you don't cast identify normally, so it pays for itself after 9 uses.
What are some other 1-3 spells with high casting costs?

"The body retains its Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, hit points, natural abilities, and automatic abilities" So what counts as automatic. It seems like a cool way to get around the (Ex) and (Su) SQ for polymorph to me...

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #937 on: September 23, 2013, 12:03:29 AM »
An interesting feat:


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Extra Divine Power

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You can use one of your divine granted abilities more often.
Prerequisite: A divinely granted class ability with a set number of uses per day.
Benefit: Choose a class ability you have from a class that grants divine spells and has a set number of uses per day, such as a shugenja's sense elements or a spirit shaman's spirit form. You may not select an ability granted by a domain. You may use the chosen ability two more times per day.
Special: You may gain this feat more than once. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a different class ability.

The aspirant cleric variant (Dragon 311, p49) has a spontaneous casting ability that can be used to cast any cleric spell, but it can only be used once per day, plus an additional time per day for each four cleric levels.  (Actually, the class skips granting another use at 20th level for some reason.)  Seems like a pretty tempting target for the feat. 

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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #938 on: September 23, 2013, 09:24:23 AM »
Would the Spirit Shaman's "Recall Spirit" work? It's normally only usable once per week.
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Re: Fun Finds v4.0
« Reply #939 on: September 23, 2013, 06:06:08 PM »
Extra Divine Power does say it only applies to stuff usable "per day."  No it wouldn't seem to work for Recall Spirit.