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Buc, buc, kaboom!
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:39:27 PM »
So, while discussing something different with Lycanthromancer, I got this silly idea.

The basic idea is a Persisted Fell Animate Greater Consumptive Field with Corpsecrafter and Destruction Retribution.  Anything that gets slain by your Field becomes a zombie under your control that will explode with negative energy.

Now, you need to supercharge your field.

Easiest way to do that is Chicken Infested and a spell component pouch.

Sample build is a simple Human Necropolitan Commoner 1/Cleric 19.

Domains are whatever you choose.  Undeath and Planning are good fallbacks if nothing else comes to mind.  Flaws we need Chicken Infested.

In no particular order, we need the following: Extend Spell, Persist Spell, Fell Animate, DMM(Persist), DMM (Fell Animate), Corpsecrafter, and Destruction Retribution.  Thankfully, we have two bonus feats at level 1 and we still have a flaw and domains to choose (which can take care of Extend Spell and one other)  Nimble Bones is a great pick for another feat.

Assuming you have the turning attempts to fuel it, this trick costs you a mere 5 gp plus holy symbol.

At the beginning of the day, pull out chickens to supercharge your Field to max.  Normally, these are really bad to fill up your Animate Dead pool with, but in this case, it's exactly what you want.  You will now have an army of undead chickens with the following stats (note: based off of Raven stats because they state useability for similar-sized birds):

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Not very intimidating, but you have a LOT of them.  Their low AC and hit points don't matter, because you want them all to be killed, and killed quickly.  Until they are killed, they make life difficult for enemies by just clogging up the battlefield (Medium and smaller creatures can't move through them) and occasionally hitting them for a point of damage (assuming no DR).  But when they die, they do some damage and can heal you if you're in range.

However, the real gem is that at any time, you can produce any amount of hen-grenades you want as a free action.  Just draw out a chicken, let the Field kill it, and drop the new zombie.When you've produced a large number of them, just tell them to attack and watch the dumb things bum rush their target until it dies.

This, of course, still isn't counting what you yourself can do.  With a caster level of at least 28, you are still a Cleric that has only cast one 7th level spell today.  Even worse is that you have a ton of temporary hp (that you can refresh any time you want) and a monster strength score.  When you decide you want to hit something, it goes down and stays there.

For an entertaining variant, you can go with (Necropolitan) Illumian Dread Necromancer instead of Cleric.  You eliminate the need for a high Wisdom as well as two feats.  The chickens are even tougher (+2 hp and +4 Dex), though that really means they have better initiative scores more than anything important.  What you do posess, however, is an ungodly control pool.  You can start a fight with a crazy 604 chickens, assuming no other caster level boosts and a Charisma of merely 30 (you will have more as a Dread Necro)  If you want to doom a town, just completely overfill your control limit and set  hundreds of zombie chickens free, then walk away.  Hilarity will ensue.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 09:46:25 PM by snakeman830 »
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:05:27 PM »
No need for Chicken Infested, just use Rain of Terror instead.  It gives you a nearly endless supply of snakes or toads... your choice.

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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 10:10:23 PM »
Snakes are better than toads in that case.  However, since chicken zombies can fly, they remain relevant longer and they can also be produced in limitless quantities as a free action as many times per day as you want..  It shouldn't hurt you either.

The good thing either way is that you are effectively immune to turning.  All the turning damage gets wasted on the zombies.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2013, 10:12:41 PM by snakeman830 »
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 12:10:20 AM »
Sadly though you'd need a Commoner level.  That really hurts.

Also, Rain of Terror can be persisted!

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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 12:28:58 AM »
I haven't seen Lycanthromancer on these boards in a while. Where'd you talk with him?
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 07:36:10 AM »
I have him on YIM.
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 03:39:50 PM »
Do you know why he hasn't come around here in a while?
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 06:39:36 PM »
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Isn't Chicken Infested one of those level 1 only things?
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 08:02:27 PM »
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Isn't Chicken Infested one of those level 1 only things?
Hence the Commoner level at level 1.

And no, I don't know why he hasn't been around.  He kinda evaded the question when I was talking to him.
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 08:09:59 PM »
Bummer ; so the set of DMM stuff
needs to have Cleric in level 1 to
qualify for those feats.  It'd have
to be an apprentice level of both
Cleric + Commoner ... just to get
DMM and Chicken Infested going
at the same time.
Level 2 is Commoner 1 / Cleric 1.
Level 1 is Commoner .5 / Cleric .5 .
Luckily 3.0 DMG has Cleric for that.
Commoner already provides nothing.
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 09:09:49 PM »
Or, at level 1, your feats could be Corpsecrater, Extend Spell, and Persist Spell, since none of those have any prerequisites (Persist Spell's is met).
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 03:36:39 PM »
Extend Spell doesn't require the ability to cast spells?
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Re: Buc, buc, kaboom!
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2013, 03:38:04 PM »
Extend Spell doesn't require the ability to cast spells?

Unless they errata'd it somewhere, none of the metamagic feats from the PHB have any prerequisites - not even a caster level.