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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2013, 12:39:24 PM »
7 hands and 1 tail = ~22 attacks (before iterative is added)

I don't understand.  How do you get 22 attacks?

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2013, 02:26:55 PM »
probably giving iteratives to the extra hands via multiweapon fighting and its successors.

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2013, 02:38:33 PM »
14x double light crossbows + 7x crossbow bayonets + 7x crossbow knives + 7x elbow blade + 7x sleeve blade + 1x tail blade + 2x double light crossbow (tail) + 1x crossbow bayonet + 1x crossbow knife = 47 attacks

you could add more (not including dragon magazine or natural weapons)...

above + 1x horned helmet + 1x foot spikes + 2x boot blades + 2x knee blade + 1x unarmed strike + 3x armor spikes (armor, dastana, chahar-aina) + 3x armor razors (armor, dastana, chahar-aina) = 60 attacks (for 5th level or below)

adding multiattack, speed, aptitude cheese increases these attacks drastically
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2013, 02:43:06 PM »
1x longsword + 6x short swords + 7x elbow blade + 7x sleeve blade + 1x tail blade + 1x short sword (tail) = 23 attacks

you could add more (not including dragon magazine or natural weapons)...

above + 1x horned helmet + 1x foot spikes + 2x boot blades + 2x knee blade + 1x unarmed strike + 3x armor spikes (armor, dastana, chahar-aina) + 3x armor razors (armor, dastana, chahar-aina) = 36 attacks (for 5th level or below)

adding multiattack, speed, aptitude cheese increases these attacks drastically
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2013, 02:45:13 PM »
see my edit for more attacks that i found

you attack bonuses are HORRENDOUS but you have 60+ attacks :-p
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2013, 02:47:29 PM »
see my edit for more attacks that i found

you attack bonuses are HORRENDOUS but you have 52+ attacks :-p
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2013, 02:49:46 PM »
very true

you could also have 3x gauntlets, and throw all your weapons as improvised thrown weapons for another 57 attacks

so a total of 117 attacks at 5th level or below
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2013, 02:54:50 PM »
Hmm... so a combat round would, roughly, last about, what? half an hour? ;)

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2013, 04:04:10 PM »
No comment :P

on here, it would be simple
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2013, 04:31:56 PM »
Hmm... so a combat round would, roughly, last about, what? half an hour? ;)
Nah, it'd take five minutes. :P Roll a massive handful of d20's, cause only the nat20's will hit.

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2013, 04:42:48 PM »
Just wield it in your mouth...

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »
Hmm... so a combat round would, roughly, last about, what? half an hour? ;)
Nah, it'd take five minutes. :P Roll a massive handful of d20's, cause only the nat20's will hit.

just code them as 117d20s20 and then go from there
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2013, 07:18:16 PM »
I just took another look at Libris Mortis.  This may sound silly, but are we sure that the Skeletal Hand graft (and similar ones) don't replace your existent hand?  That's what it sounds like to me, rather than granting you an additional, third one.

It seems to me that if it did something like that it would be spelled out more, e.g., the Third Hand from MiC.

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2013, 07:35:39 PM »
The wording doesn't specify one way or the other, but other grafts specifically say they replace existing body parts (ex.: Vampire Fangs) or occupy empty sockets (ex.: Eye of Flame), so... i guess they keep adding to the existing limb count.

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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2013, 08:51:04 PM »
Since it doesn't say 'replace' like a bunch of them say, you can assume it can either replace or add separately anywhere on the body.

you could have skeletal hand look like is coming out your ass. You could scare to crap out of people by looking like a skeleton is coming out of your ass!  :twitch :o
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2013, 09:18:35 PM »
Since it doesn't say 'replace' like a bunch of them say, you can assume it can either replace or add separately anywhere on the body.

you could have skeletal hand look like is coming out your ass. You could scare to crap out of people by looking like a skeleton is coming out of your ass!  :twitch :o

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Edit: This entire thread turned into everyone talking about getting an extra limb to solve the original problem but I still think my idea was the coolest  :bigeyes
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2013, 09:26:04 PM »
Yeah but mine was the craziest
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Re: Way to wield a two handed weapon and a light weapon?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2013, 11:03:47 PM »
...at least he could sit wherever he wanted to. An undead arm doesn't get tired, so it can double as a built-in chair... :tongue