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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #780 on: March 09, 2012, 09:01:08 PM »
Working the next day is a valid reason. However, I don't understand why people would make absolute decisions like never drinking, never doing this and that. Seems silly to me.

I had a near-death experience at birth, and have had enough health problems throughout my life that I don't want alcohol or drugs to add even more problems, nor do I want to spend my money on either for the sake of having better ways to use it.


But that's just me, and I don't have a problem with my friends' smoking/drinking times (I do accompany them every now and again, but usually because we play poker when they do).
I had a near-death experience around 19 years after my birth, never stopped me. I am not saying I have anything against decisions not to have alcohol, but I don't understand categorical decisions not to do something. It is definitely more than okay not to drink or do whatever, but I think making a permanent, binding decisions don't make sense. If you break that, you are just going to feel bad, while refraining and perhaps erring at some point won't be nearly as bad for your mental health.

Been fairly strong about it for 23 years. it helps that my dad is a recovering drug addict himself, so he supports my teetotaling (having other peoples' support makes it much easier to resist it).
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #781 on: March 09, 2012, 10:34:10 PM »
Working the next day is a valid reason. However, I don't understand why people would make absolute decisions like never drinking, never doing this and that. Seems silly to me.

I had a near-death experience at birth, and have had enough health problems throughout my life that I don't want alcohol or drugs to add even more problems, nor do I want to spend my money on either for the sake of having better ways to use it.


But that's just me, and I don't have a problem with my friends' smoking/drinking times (I do accompany them every now and again, but usually because we play poker when they do).
I had a near-death experience around 19 years after my birth, never stopped me. I am not saying I have anything against decisions not to have alcohol, but I don't understand categorical decisions not to do something. It is definitely more than okay not to drink or do whatever, but I think making a permanent, binding decisions don't make sense. If you break that, you are just going to feel bad, while refraining and perhaps erring at some point won't be nearly as bad for your mental health.

Been fairly strong about it for 23 years. it helps that my dad is a recovering drug addict himself, so he supports my teetotaling (having other peoples' support makes it much easier to resist it).

There's also the fact I could never find an alcoholic beverage to meet my tastes, I've seen it devastate relationships, and on the one occasion I DID try to get drunk, I knocked down seven beers and couldn't swallow another drop. I didn't even get a buzz.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #782 on: March 09, 2012, 10:58:41 PM »
Me?  I cook with alcohol (quite frequently, actually, a splash of white wine does wonders for sauces), but I won't drink it.  Beyond what's in every beverage/foodstuff anyway.
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« Reply #783 on: March 09, 2012, 11:54:05 PM »
Me?  I cook with alcohol (quite frequently, actually, a splash of white wine does wonders for sauces), but I won't drink it.  Beyond what's in every beverage/foodstuff anyway.

The alcoholic bit frequently, if not always, evaporates during cooking.
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« Reply #784 on: March 10, 2012, 12:03:23 AM »
If it's still liquid, there's still alchohol.  general rule anyways.  The only reason it doesn't get you buzzed is that some of the alcohol does develope into other chemicals, and more importantly there's verey little in each serving.  I think 2 T of wine spread across 5 servings will not get anyone drunk.  With the coq au vin, it's more like 2 c of red wine, but that's cooked longer and spread out to 6-8 servings.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #785 on: March 10, 2012, 03:24:07 AM »
Working the next day is a valid reason. However, I don't understand why people would make absolute decisions like never drinking, never doing this and that. Seems silly to me.

I had a near-death experience at birth, and have had enough health problems throughout my life that I don't want alcohol or drugs to add even more problems, nor do I want to spend my money on either for the sake of having better ways to use it.


But that's just me, and I don't have a problem with my friends' smoking/drinking times (I do accompany them every now and again, but usually because we play poker when they do).
I had a near-death experience around 19 years after my birth, never stopped me. I am not saying I have anything against decisions not to have alcohol, but I don't understand categorical decisions not to do something. It is definitely more than okay not to drink or do whatever, but I think making a permanent, binding decisions don't make sense. If you break that, you are just going to feel bad, while refraining and perhaps erring at some point won't be nearly as bad for your mental health.

Been fairly strong about it for 23 years. it helps that my dad is a recovering drug addict himself, so he supports my teetotaling (having other peoples' support makes it much easier to resist it).

There's also the fact I could never find an alcoholic beverage to meet my tastes, I've seen it devastate relationships, and on the one occasion I DID try to get drunk, I knocked down seven beers and couldn't swallow another drop. I didn't even get a buzz.

Tip: Don't drink beer if you're atually trying to get drunk.  Beer isn't strong enough.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #786 on: March 10, 2012, 04:21:03 AM »
My personal habit is I drink alcohol if it's offered (unless it's beer; I don't like beer), but not by myself. I haven't made it an actual rule, but I tend to stick to it regardless out of habit. My favorite drink is still plain old water.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #787 on: March 10, 2012, 05:03:22 AM »
Tip: Don't drink beer if you're atually trying to get drunk.  Beer isn't strong enough.

If the joke is to be believed it's rather difficult to get drunk off American beer.

"What do Germans call American beer? Dishwater."


My few alcohol experiences didn't get me buzzed, but I'm about 270 pounds (122 kilos) so it's difficult to get drunk in the first place.  All it's ever done is made me piss.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #788 on: March 10, 2012, 06:11:26 AM »
Tip: Don't drink beer if you're atually trying to get drunk.  Beer isn't strong enough.

If the joke is to be believed it's rather difficult to get drunk off American beer.

"What do Germans call American beer? Dishwater."


My few alcohol experiences didn't get me buzzed, but I'm about 270 pounds (122 kilos) so it's difficult to get drunk in the first place.  All it's ever done is made me piss.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #789 on: March 10, 2012, 07:47:23 AM »
Me?  I cook with alcohol (quite frequently, actually, a splash of white wine does wonders for sauces), but I won't drink it.  Beyond what's in every beverage/foodstuff anyway.
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« Reply #790 on: March 10, 2012, 09:56:18 AM »
..., but I think making a permanent, binding decisions don't make sense. If you break that, you are just going to feel bad, while refraining and perhaps erring at some point won't be nearly as bad for your mental health.

So, you're saying you're definitely NOT a paladin, got it.

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ME: "What beer do you have?"
Waitress: "Well, we have Budweiser, Michelob, ..."
ME: "No, I said Beer."
Waitress: "Oh, we have Guinness, Sam Adams, Heineken"
ME: "Guinness please."

(I needed spell check for the first two, but Heiny and Guinness, perfect. Says a lot.)

But yeah, beer =/= "drinking" usually. It's just barley-pop. There are some people though who do have a really low tolerance.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #791 on: March 10, 2012, 11:39:14 AM »
And then there's beers that have a 15-20% alchohol....

And now my rant: First time I've been sick (actually sick, not just feel bad) since a LONG time ago (many years) on Wednesday night, I caught what my brother had.  Thanks to my immune system I was only really out of commission for about 24 hours, but I still felt bad until this morning.  HOwever, I wake up earlier with....pain....in my neck.  I now have a hard time turning my head in any direction, including keeping it still (although if it's really still the pain goes down to unnoticeable levels, any twitch of a certain muscle will cause pain).  It's a muscle thing, or a tendon.  Probably strained from sleeping on it weird.  There's some positions that are less painful for it at least.  Too bad they're awkward positions that hurt due to physical restraints on the human body.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #792 on: March 10, 2012, 12:26:10 PM »
The rule on cooking with alcohol is that if you put alcohol in it, there's alcohol in it.  Some of it certainly evaporates, but it's rare (if ever) that *all* the alcohol evaporates.

As for drinking tolerance, I've griped out my un-fun reaction to alcohol before, although I am considering getting a small bottle of rum to stash in my fridge for those times I want to get to sleep early.

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« Reply #793 on: March 10, 2012, 12:51:13 PM »
Oh, also on alcohol in beverages: there's alcohol in pretty much everything, even sodas.  I believe Sprite has around .6%?
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« Reply #794 on: March 10, 2012, 12:59:14 PM »
Oh, also on alcohol in beverages: there's alcohol in pretty much everything, even sodas.  I believe Sprite has around .6%?
I find it unlikely that sprite has that much, although you are correct that alcohol is pretty common.  It's mostly flavorless and I can see it helping flavor compounds (which are mostly... esters, I believe the name is?) be more water solvent.

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« Reply #795 on: March 10, 2012, 01:04:02 PM »
Oh, also on alcohol in beverages: there's alcohol in pretty much everything, even sodas.  I believe Sprite has around .6%?

Yes, but on that there are many different types of alcohol. Lets keep this to relevant amounts of Ethyl. Else we'll be bogged down by semantics.
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« Reply #796 on: March 10, 2012, 01:43:04 PM »
I'm pretty sure it's ethanol.  From the production process and otehr sources.  I could be wrong, as this is from a story about a year ago about the soda that was pulled from shelves in Maine that was labled ".3% alcohol by volume" because it was deemed alcoholic and thus forbidden for kids to purchase, while a comparison was made to other sodas like SPrite, ginger ale, and 7-Up which all had higher concentrations of it.  They never mentioned the type of alcohol they contained, but generally when people say "alcohol" they mean ethanol.

On flavoring: it's used as a common solvent.  And yes, that's ethanol, not other types of alcohol.  I realyl don't think there are many other types of alcohol that are used in anything that goes in or on the human body, as they tend to be toxic.  Most are highyl toxic even.  At .5% alcohol, you would be hard pressed to get anything remotely similar to a buzz off of it, no matter what age/weight/tolerance you are.  You'd likely vomit from the sheer amount of liquid in your system before you even got a quarter of the way there.  Think of it this way: a typical beeramerican "beer" is around what, 3-5% alcohol?  I may be under representing it with th 3, but we'll go with that.  In order to equal the effects of one beer, you need 6 sprites.  That's one low alcohol drink, for the price of 6 "no" alcohol drinks.  Good luck keeping 144 ounces of liquid in your stomach to equal the effects of TWO cans of "beer"!  Now, one of the higher alcohol content beers I've seen is about 18% alcohol.  That's around 48 cans of sprite to equal the alcohol content of one pint of that stuff.  Talk to people who do drink from time to time: 18% alcohol will maybe, just maybe get you slightly buzzed on a pint.  Maybe, if you're relatively intolerant.

EDIT: Budweiser is at 5%.  That's 10 cans of sprite to equal the alcohol of one can of it.  I'd like to see someone try to get a buzz off of Sprite given that ratio.  That's almost a gallon of Sprite to equal the effects of one CAN of Budweiser.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread, Continued...
« Reply #797 on: March 10, 2012, 02:01:10 PM »
You'd get a buzz off the sugar first.
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« Reply #798 on: March 10, 2012, 02:08:46 PM »
Why are we talking about getting drunk off soda?

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« Reply #799 on: March 10, 2012, 02:11:35 PM »
Because of your statement earlier?
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