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Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty
« on: September 20, 2013, 03:33:47 PM »
Chinese Star

- "You're all children compared to 4000 years of history!" - Hong Meiling, the first Chinese Star master.

   Chinese Star is a martial art that eschews that function comes first and seeks to combine form and function together into a beautiful gestalt. Based on the combination of the manipulation of your inner Qi, the Qi that surrounds you and the beauty of a truly flowing and graceful martial art; this School attempts to find beauty on the battlefield, while still being a formidable force that opponents will fear. As with every art, each student has its own style and this comes through in the manipulation of your Qi; with some being fiery and brutal, while others are colourful and graceful. There is always a single constant of all students of the school of Chinese Star. They are rarely if ever subtle. In battle the air is filled with sweet smells, beautiful colours and for some students their Qi even rings out musically.

   The school of Chinese Star was created by the guardian of an ancient mansion, in her efforts to protect it from all harm. She was already gifted in the arts of Qi manipulation and was a true master of the mystic martial arts of the east, so was able to combine them into the great and powerful art of Chinese Star. Each and every movement is empowered by the flow of Qi within, lending its power into strikes that hamper the opponent and allow the practitioner to move with the grace of a butterfly. Inspired by the beauty that surrounds her in the gardens which she maintains, she brought these into her martial arts, making rainbow coloured Qi empowered flurries that are not only powerful, but truly a spectacle to behold.

   Though this martial art may not be known widely throughout the world, it leaves a distinct impression on those that witness true masters of the art in battle. It is both truly frightening in its power and versatility but also the magnificent form and beauty that it has. To be able to learn this art, students travel to see the Guardian of the mansion and the first master of this art. The first master is always happy to have students, as she enjoys the company and it alleviates the monotony of being the only gatekeeper.

This school is available only to those who take the Shanghai Teahouse feat.

The key skill of this discipline is Iaijutsu Focus, as Chinese Star is about controlling, maintaining your Qi and releasing it all in sharp bursts of energy through your entire body.

The favoured weapons of this discipline are; Unarmed strikes, Dao (or Longsword), Guandao (or Glaive), Jian (or Short sword) and Qiang (or Spear).

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Manoeuvres.

1st level.
Closing of the Gate: Counter - Punish a opponent who moves near you, halting their movement.
Flowing Qi Form: Stance - Glow with Qi power, flowing through the battlefield gaining bonuses to speed and either AC or Reflex
Fragrant Orb Strike: Strike - Create a rainbow coloured orb which explodes, harming all enemies around a target.
Inner Strength: Boost - Focus on your inner strength, empowering your next strike with Qi
Three Point Strike: Strike - Strike at specific pressure points, causing an enemy to be unable to move freely.

2nd level.
Catching a White Feather: Counter - Attempt to catch a sword as it goes to strike you, then either disarm the opponent or break the offending weapon.
Colourful Rain: Strike - Twirl on the spot, releasing small Qi projectiles that harm opponents and help allies.
Descending Flower Slam: Strike - Leap into the air, delivering a harsh kick to an opponent that knocks them to the ground.
Radiant Rainbow Spirals: Boost - Create a point of Qi that you twirl around your body, making those who stand near you unable to move away.

3rd level.
Water Barrier Tai Ji Quan: Counter - Make an Iaijutsu Focus skill check instead of a Reflex save, be excluded from the area if successful.
Colourful Wind Typhoon: Stance - Become an unpredictable whirlwind of motion, making opponents miss you entirely.
Piercing Red Strikes: Boost - Make your attacks piercing points of impact, ignoring DR.
Strike Sign “Roc’s Fist”: Strike - Strike your opponent with a single powerful strike, sending them flying into the sky.
Yellow Tremor Kick: Strike - Stomp the ground, sending a Qi shock wave that harms opponents and sends them into the dirt.

4th level.
Earth Dragon Leap: Boost - Focus your Qi in your legs, allowing you to make great leaps.
Gorgeous Sweet Flower: Strike - Strike an area of the battlefield with your attacks, build upon by repetition.
Qi Burst Tai Ji Quan: Counter - Become a wall, focus your mind and push those that surround you away.
Scarlet Inch Crush: Strike - Focus the Qi into your arms, before delivering a powerful strike that disables your opponent.

5th level.
Fragrant Wave: Boost - Fire long lines of Qi at your opponents to attack from a distance.
Sky Dragon Kick: Strike - Leap like a dragon, strike your opponent down and then follow them down.
Spiralling Light Steps: Stance - Become able to balance even on water itself.
Colourful Stopping Fist: Strike - Attack an opponent relentlessly, reducing their ability to defend themselves.

6th level.
Colourful Light Chaotic Dance: Strike - Rise into the air in a small whirlwind, throwing everyone around you into chaos.
Fierce Tiger’s Focus: Boost - Purge yourself of debilitating effects.
Radiant Rolling Counter: Counter - Rush an opponent who is about to cause you harm, prevent that harm.
Rainbow Sign “Intense Rainbow Fist”: Strike - Flurry at those around you, making them unable to fight at their best form.

7th level.
Destructive Strike “Sudden Roc’s Fist”: Strike - Suddenly fly into a destructive series of strikes, and power through them potentially killing them.
Earth and Sky Dragon Kick: Strike - Send your opponent into the air, catch them in the Sky before slamming them into the Earth.
Colourful Negation Barrier: Counter - Conjure a barrier, catch magical projectiles to protect both yourself and your allies.

8th level.
Instant Lightning Strike: Strike - Attack with lightning speed striking truly, repeat this attack when they least expect it.
Qi Overdrive: Boost - Crackle with Qi energy, making your attack reverberate in the enemy struck.
True Focus, True Grace: Boost - Focus your mind and body and be able to use your skill at Qi control for other purposes.

9th level.
Flower Sign "Colorful Light Lotus Flower Palm": Strike - Draw Qi energy into your enemy with a single strike, then destroy them with that energy.
Qi Sign "Fierce Tiger's Inner Strength": Stance - Fill your body and mind with extra Qi energy from within and from without. Difficult to maintain.
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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 03:34:02 PM »
Manoeuvre explanations:

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« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 04:33:11 AM by oslecamo »

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2013, 03:34:16 PM »
reserved just in case

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2013, 04:20:14 PM »
I'm gonna say this right away, I really dislike "rushes".  They reward going nova like there's no tommorrow, reduce the amount of  maneuver prepared choices, and overall simply go against most of the spirit of ToB. I don't allow them in my campaigns at all and it really puts me down on attempting to review this as a whole if they're in the middle.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2013, 04:58:51 PM »
What is a "rush"?

I gotta say, this has probably been one of my most looked forward to disciplines  :D
And it's looking pretty good so far.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 05:00:54 PM by ketaro »

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 05:06:24 PM »
I'm gonna say this right away, I really dislike "rushes".  They reward going nova like there's no tommorrow, reduce the amount of  maneuver prepared choices, and overall simply go against most of the spirit of ToB. I don't allow them in my campaigns at all and it really puts me down on attempting to review this as a whole if they're in the middle.

Hm, when I made that manoeuvre I felt it was a bit too strong for a boost as it would allow you to charge while ignoring most things that would hinder you and I thought it was a bit too weak for a standard action as it would disallow you from making an attack that round. So I settled for a move action as it stopped you from making a full round action while allowing extra mobility. I thought that rushes were just 'Different ways to move' so I treated it similar to the Shadow Hand teleportation moves. Which upon re-looking doesn't have an inbetween which is movement action.

I could make it a boost, but I still feel it is a bit too strong for that >:

Edit: Actually thinking on it will probably just make it a boost as in PF the ninja gets something similar as a full round action at level 6 and this manoeuvre is a level 9 manoeuvre (without the movement as part of it).
« Last Edit: September 20, 2013, 05:34:59 PM by TechyKat »

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 05:37:46 PM »
Honestly it looks like it would work better as a stance,  otherwise you can keep it up all the time with the 1 minute duration.

Or reduce the duration to 1 round and make it a boost. Desert Flame already had movement-increasing boosts.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 05:40:18 PM »
Hm yeah, I rewrote it and it does seem like it would be good as a stance. I'll put it as a stance and have to think of something else :p.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 06:30:35 PM »
For now just one thing that confuses me: Why is the main skill Iaijutsu Focus?
That skill is all about unsheathing a weapon as part of an attack, but in hand-to-hand combat you have no weapon to unsheath.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 06:33:35 PM »
Oriental Adventures specifies that it can be used unarmed-it's what martial artists use to break rocks with bare hands and whatnot.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 06:35:51 PM »
For now just one thing that confuses me: Why is the main skill Iaijutsu Focus?
That skill is all about unsheathing a weapon as part of an attack, but in hand-to-hand combat you have no weapon to unsheath.

I dunno, Takamichi Takahata unsheaths his fists pretty damn well  :eh
And the skill itself does say it is one used by martial artists to shatter objects. A lot of martial artists I've seen break those cinder blocks with their fists, not a sword. I think it fits for this.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2013, 07:12:04 PM »
Where does it say that? I never read that passage.
It is a very weird notion for me to imagine Iaijutsu being applied with fists, considering what iaijutsu is.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2013, 08:48:52 PM »
Qi is referred to in a lot of martial arts, including ones which include katana and swordplay. So to me, Iaijutsu Focus is also the art of controlling your Qi (even if the only use of it in mechanics is to strike using a quickdraw). It could use some more uses and a name change, but eh what can I do about it.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2013, 09:42:12 PM »
Perhaps, but the mechanics would have to be different.

If there is indeed some place that mentions that unarmed strikes can be used somehow, it would also have to define how you unsheath your unarmed strikes, and how you sheath them to use Iaijutsu again.

And even then. Unarmed strikes are awkwardly used for it because the whole body can be used to attack. Head, knee, feet, hands... even your hair. There is an unsheathing action, so that kills the idea of putting and removing your hands in and out your pockets as a free action to trigger IF uses nonstop.
Can you unsheath every part of your body at once or individually, which would be madness. Then sheathing the whole thing again. Maybe a new skill with a new mechanic, but technically chi gathering can fit into the Concentration skill. The whole chi into punch is already applied by many feats and class features already, so a direct connection might not be necessary.
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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2013, 10:49:38 PM »
Concentration is more focusing your mind to blot out distractions, allowing you to focus on your task at hand. It fits for Diamond mind as that is all about perception and being able to notice and act at the speed of the mental rather than the physical; but focusing to remove distractions and gain a greater insight (or do whatever you were doing while being hampered etc). That to me does not involve the Qi that martial arts is about. Qi is more like a force that you manipulate, not only with your mind but also with your body and it is all around you and you can manipulate the Qi around you too.

I do agree that Iaijutsu Focus in function doesn't particularly fit if you only use your fist (as the implications of drawing and sheathing a fist is odd at best), but in form it fits well in my opinion. I could make another skill and make it perfect, but it would probably be after I finish making all the manoeuvres. So for now, it will probably use Iaijutsu Focus until I can make another skill or find something which fits in both form and function or maybe just update Iaijutsu Focus to 3.5 with some additions.
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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM »
Iaijutsu Focus would have actually been perfect for Ancient Temple. The AT girl actually uses Iaijutsu.
It still ended up going for her job, gardening.
This one could follow suit and go with a Profession check for Gatekeeping, Guardian or some kind of bodyguard thing. It keeps everything Wisdom based, which is better for monk-types than charisma anyway. Just a thought.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2013, 03:28:55 AM »
Crashing Wave Tai Ji Quan (5th level strike) doesn't really make sense to me. Or maybe it just doesn't seem like anything special. It's a maneuver that pretty much is replicating a normal Full attack action, except it'll usually come out to about just one extra attack than normal much like Flurry of Blows. That just doesn't come off as a mid-tier maneuver with what it currently is :/

The needing to roll against the target's AC before actually rolling against it's AC to hit sounds awkward. I'd say making it simply be a bonus to hit that scales via ranks in Iaijutsu Focus, Maybe +1 for every 3 or 4? Maybe make them flatfooted for the whole strike's set of attacks? I think it just needs something on top of mimicking a full attack to make it more appropriate for it's level and more useful than just doing a full attack normally.

Iaijutsu Focus would have actually been perfect for Ancient Temple. The AT girl actually uses Iaijutsu.
It still ended up going for her job, gardening.
This one could follow suit and go with a Profession check for Gatekeeping, Guardian or some kind of bodyguard thing. It keeps everything Wisdom based, which is better for monk-types than charisma anyway. Just a thought.
That is a good point, but I feel Os incorporated the gardening skill well enough into enough of the maneuvers that it has it's uses in regards to the discipline.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2013, 03:31:44 AM by ketaro »

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2013, 07:59:06 AM »
Crashing Wave Tai Ji Quan (5th level strike) doesn't really make sense to me. Or maybe it just doesn't seem like anything special. It's a maneuver that pretty much is replicating a normal Full attack action, except it'll usually come out to about just one extra attack than normal much like Flurry of Blows. That just doesn't come off as a mid-tier maneuver with what it currently is :/

The needing to roll against the target's AC before actually rolling against it's AC to hit sounds awkward. I'd say making it simply be a bonus to hit that scales via ranks in Iaijutsu Focus, Maybe +1 for every 3 or 4? Maybe make them flatfooted for the whole strike's set of attacks? I think it just needs something on top of mimicking a full attack to make it more appropriate for it's level and more useful than just doing a full attack normally.
By level 9 when you get the maneuver, you're making 4 attacks and also gaining a bonus on the attack rolls, while flurry of blows actually inflicts a penalty on the attack rolls and would only produce 3 attacks.

Iaijutsu Focus would have actually been perfect for Ancient Temple. The AT girl actually uses Iaijutsu.
It still ended up going for her job, gardening.
This one could follow suit and go with a Profession check for Gatekeeping, Guardian or some kind of bodyguard thing. It keeps everything Wisdom based, which is better for monk-types than charisma anyway. Just a thought.
That is a good point, but I feel Os incorporated the gardening skill well enough into enough of the maneuvers that it has it's uses in regards to the discipline.

Youmu uses Yajutsu Focus now? By Anomander's definition of "unsheating or unrelated", never.

PCB-She's sheating her swords all the time, yes, but then also holds them out for a lot of time before actually unleashing her attacks, completely defeating the purpose of sudden unsheating.

SWR- main sword drawn out all the time, never draws secondary sword.

IN and TH13-Never draws out her swords. Where do you think her 6th level stance comes?

Now Yuyuko, she draws her fans out of nowhere to make sudden attacks. Damnit, I guess I'll have to change her skill to Yajutsu Focus! Oh, wait, Marisa also draws her broom suddenly to make attacks! Clearly a Yajutsu Focus master! Alice always pulling dolls out of her pockets. She's clearly  a supreme Yajutsu Focus champion.
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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2013, 09:30:58 AM »
Yeah ketaro, I made that manoeuvre while I was kinda tired. So it is rather boring. I've replaced it with a more fabulous and level appropriate manoeuvre.

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Re: Chinese Star: Mixing Strength and Beauty [WIP]
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2013, 10:27:15 AM »
New version looks pretty good.

Radiant Rainbow Spirals is a boost but the initiation action is an immediate action.

Yellow Tremor Kick-isn't just 10 feet burst a bit too short? Perhaps could use some scaling up at least.

Colourful Wind Typhoon-Seems a bit too strong for a 3rd level stance, would suggest reducing the miss chance to just 5%+5% per 4 ranks in Iajutsu Focus(or make it non-stackeable with other miss chances).

Scarlet Inch Crush-"deals extra damage equal to the amount of bonus dice that this checks outcome would add". So if you would add+5d6, you just add +5 damage? Doesn't seem much.

Sky Dragon Kick- "As this earlier maneuver, but better in every way". Seems a bit cheap to go that route. How about a temporary penalty to AC or reflex saves to represent a higher risk-reward?

Earth Dragon Leap-How about instead of IL, it adds your ranks in Iajutsu Focus plus your Cha mod to jump checks? Otherwise it seems more of a Tiger Claw maneuver.

Overall looking pretty nice, keep up the good work!