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Fun Finds v5.0
« on: October 02, 2013, 06:30:37 PM »
continued from Fun Finds 4.0
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 06:43:06 PM »
Something really weird that I found out about the Fiend of Blasphemy PRC:

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One very interesting option could be psionic's in general:

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Psi-Like Abilities (Ps)
The manifestation of powers by a psionic character is considered a psi-like ability, as is the manifestation of powers by creatures without a psionic class (creatures with the psionic subtype, also simply called psionic creatures). Usually, a psionic creature’s psi-like ability works just like the power of that name. A few psi-like abilities are unique; these are explained in the text where they are described.


Take the Magic Mantle and PLA's count as SLA's. Thus you could then give your psionic ability with Blood Oath. I have no idea how this works.

The only 3 classes I know of that grant Mantles are the Ardent, ACF Wilder, and the Divine Mind. Wilder is Cha-focused and Divine Mind is crap. Ardent is actually the best choice because they're are Wis-focused so there isn't MAD and because ardents have a unique way of selecting powers so they don't get crippled as much by ML loss.

Go Ardent 10 (for the dominant ideal ACF)/FoB 2/Psychic Theurge 4/Ardent 4 (not in that order). Not a bad build at all (assuming the psionic transfer isn't crappy).


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If you wanted to go the Mantled Wilder route, you could combine it with the phrenic template actually. Just make sure you're using LA buyoff.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 06:44:37 PM »
Whu?

I don't-

Whu?
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2013, 06:57:10 PM »
well, wasnt this a fun find
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2013, 06:58:40 PM »
Whu?

I don't-

Whu?

FoB's can transfer their SLA's to cultists who have participated in a Blood Oath ritual. It's a PRC that's in the Fiend Folio.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2013, 07:24:19 PM »
That's...interesting.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2013, 07:35:08 PM »
Whu?

I don't-

Whu?

FoB's can transfer their SLA's to cultists who have participated in a Blood Oath ritual. It's a PRC that's in the Fiend Folio.

I got that; I'm just not sure how that would work mechanically.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2013, 10:09:15 PM »
isn't the ability to manifest psionics actually technically separate from the individual psionic powers; ie: learning / knowing?

however, i see it effectively making the character count as "psionic" for purposes of feats, prestige, etc...

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 10:09:32 PM »
whoops, double post.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 01:56:17 AM »
If psi-like abilities are spell like abilities, then Ability Focus and anything else that can boost the latter can boost the former. Start with Quicken Spell-Like Ability and go to town.

And claiming Spellcasting in Ex is a fundamental failure on your part worthy of total ostracization as you have fully and whole heatedly proven your inability & lazyness to preform proper research into a topic while simultaneously showcasing your creative imagination to fabricate your desired results without any regard to what is real or not.

Anyone advocating total ostracization of someone just because they're wrong about something should themselves be totally ostracized.

... wait, did I just totally ostracize myself?

Not necessarily. The term "something" is ambiguous. If it means "any thing in particular" -- as most english speakers would believe it does -- then your contention would be a justification for ostracization for only one particular thing. Regardless of its validity, that is not a hypocritical or inconsistent worldview on its face.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 12:15:52 PM »
Something weird I noticed in the DMG, specifically the community wealth & population section, page 137. The example for max value of x item you can get based on how much the town has is 30 longswords for a hamlet of 90 people.
1/2 the max spend on 1 item + 1/10 the population.
This means that at any given time, a metropolis with a population of 25001 people, the smallest possible, will have, readily available, 8,333,666 longswords.
(100,000 limit / 2 * 25001 population/10)=50,000*2500.1= 125005000 gp worth on longswords.
Longswords cost 15 gp, and 125005000 gp/15 gp per sword = 8333666.6(repeating) longswords.

Bring this up next time the DM complains about you buying in bulk, or if you want to know why they have over 300 swords per person.

Seriously, what the hell is this.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 02:23:08 PM »
Bring this up next time the DM complains about you buying in bulk, or if you want to know why they have over 300 swords per person.

Seriously, what the hell is this.

America.

Alternatively, many of those longswords could be masterwork, assuming that the two still count as the same item for availability purposes.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 03:17:27 PM »
America.
America has ~ 90 guns per 100 people. Really high, but still not allowing everyone to dual wield.

Alternatively, many of those longswords could be masterwork, assuming that the two still count as the same item for availability purposes.
Argument for is kinda weak (noticeable difference in quality). And even if they are all masterwork, it's still >15 swords per person.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 05:07:32 PM »
3.0e Psi is listed in that DMG as (su).
3.5e Psi gets that XPH listing as (ps) ... {=(sp)}.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2013, 08:17:18 AM »
Alternatively, many of those longswords could be masterwork, assuming that the two still count as the same item for availability purposes.
Argument for is kinda weak (noticeable difference in quality). And even if they are all masterwork, it's still >15 swords per person.

I fail to see the problem here.
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On more serious terms... maybe "available" means "after smelting down all the utensils / armour / pots / pans and misc metals, we'd have enough metal to make X-thousand longswords.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 08:23:35 AM »
America.
America has ~ 90 guns per 100 people. Really high, but still not allowing everyone to dual wield.

Real hunters use bows.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 01:03:55 PM »
America.
America has ~ 90 guns per 100 people. Really high, but still not allowing everyone to dual wield.

Real hunters use bows.

Hey Ed, did you get anything with your fully automatic assault rifle?
I think I found a hoof... Ooo, and it still has some fur attached!

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 01:16:09 PM »
real hunters each tofu ;)
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 01:22:59 PM »
real hunters each tofu ;)
Humans used to hunt by running down their prey until it collapsed.

Yes, even deer. We hunted deer by having ridiculous CON scores, and Endurance and Run as racial bonus feats.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 01:25:18 PM »
now the average Con is 2 or 3 :-p
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