Fun Finds v5.0

[phaedrusxy]

The Mystic Lash spell from PGtF is really quite nice. 1d6/3 levels electricity damage(max 4d6), 15ft reach, touch attacks, no Str to damage, but Cha instead, and finally, save against stun on each hit. Unfortunately, it's normally only accessible to clerics of Bane and costs a feat. Unless of course, you happen to be an archivist or chameleon...

The Psychic Whip power is similar, but doesn't do as much damage.

[zook1shoe]

hmm...

does Ritual of Association grant you actual weapon proficiency with those racial weapons?
or is more for magic items that have a racial requirement

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- Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves may treat dwarven waraxes and dwarven urgroshes as martial weapons, rather than exotic weapons.

Ritual of Association
This minor ritual gives the character a racial subtype or type modifier such as gnoll, goblinoid, orc, or reptilian. (This ritual does not grant the human, dwarf, elf, gnome, and halfling subtypes of humanoid.) The character gains minor manifestations of the physical appearance of that subtype (DCs for Disguise checks increase by +5), but no abilities of that monster kind. The benefit of this ritual is that the character can use items as if it were a member of that subtype. Therefore, a magic sword with additional functions when wielded by an orc would also allow access to those functions for someone who successfully completed this ritual to obtain the orc subtype.
This ritual requires a 7th-level transmuter who knows polymorph other.
Ritual Cost: This ritual costs the subject 56,000 gold pieces and 2,240 XP.
Level Adjustment:+0.

[Kethrian]

The Mystic Lash spell from PGtF is really quite nice. 1d6/3 levels electricity damage(max 4d6), 15ft reach, touch attacks, no Str to damage, but Cha instead, and finally, save against stun on each hit. Unfortunately, it's normally only accessible to clerics of Bane and costs a feat. Unless of course, you happen to be an archivist or chameleon...

The Psychic Whip power is similar, but doesn't do as much damage.

He forgot to mention that after you attack someone with the whip, you can release it, and it will continue to auto-attack them!  Makes the Mystic Lash even more crazy-awesome!

[Keldar]

hmm...

does Ritual of Association grant you actual weapon proficiency with those racial weapons?
or is more for magic items that have a racial requirement

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- Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves may treat dwarven waraxes and dwarven urgroshes as martial weapons, rather than exotic weapons.

Ritual of Association
This minor ritual gives the character a racial subtype or type modifier such as gnoll, goblinoid, orc, or reptilian. (This ritual does not grant the human, dwarf, elf, gnome, and halfling subtypes of humanoid.) The character gains minor manifestations of the physical appearance of that subtype (DCs for Disguise checks increase by +5), but no abilities of that monster kind. The benefit of this ritual is that the character can use items as if it were a member of that subtype. Therefore, a magic sword with additional functions when wielded by an orc would also allow access to those functions for someone who successfully completed this ritual to obtain the orc subtype.
This ritual requires a 7th-level transmuter who knows polymorph other.
Ritual Cost: This ritual costs the subject 56,000 gold pieces and 2,240 XP.
Level Adjustment:+0.

Magic items.  The nonmagical ones you can already use with a -4 nonproficiency penalty and the subtype itself has no correlation to nonmagic weapons.  A racial ability provides that, and only to some of the members of the subtype.

The only thing after the first line that isn't a clarification of what gaining a subtype means is the bracketed +5 Disguise DC change.

[Nunkuruji]

The Mystic Lash spell from PGtF is really quite nice. 1d6/3 levels electricity damage(max 4d6), 15ft reach, touch attacks, no Str to damage, but Cha instead, and finally, save against stun on each hit. Unfortunately, it's normally only accessible to clerics of Bane and costs a feat. Unless of course, you happen to be an archivist or chameleon...

The Psychic Whip power is similar, but doesn't do as much damage.

He forgot to mention that after you attack someone with the whip, you can release it, and it will continue to auto-attack them!  Makes the Mystic Lash even more crazy-awesome!

I pimp this spell from time to time. If you combine it with the Maiden of Pain (Loviatar), it synergizes pretty awesome with their deliver spells through whip ability. The spell is also accessible to her clerics. Being coked out on Agony, +cha, is a nice bonus to the whole cha/turning/dmm path as well.

[TiaC]

I came across it with a DMM persist Chameleon with reserves of strength. CL 30 buffs at ECL 15. Add a rod of maximize and two-handed power attack with divine power for 100+ damage on each hit. Then, BoTT it for another save vs. stun on each hit. I decided the build had gone too far when I realized that I could kill a Gold Great Wurm in one round 80%+ of the time and stun it another 13% at ECL 16.

[SorO_Lost]

Bane-Juice.

Not exactly optimal, but 2,100gp for a +6 Enhancement Bonus to Str & +6d6 Temp HP is 1/17th the cost of a standard +6 item and it's a consumable so it shouldn't be held against you by the next level. Pet owners might want to carry a couple of doses, as well as anyone wanting to be a Thor style Dark Elf.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Sweeeet.   
I thought everyone in d&d roleplaying being a total Drunk, used Neutralize Poison a lot, anyway.
Not thinking of any Psi builds that could use that.

[Jackinthegreen]

At least two deities have the spiked chain as their favored weapon: Zoser from Sandstorm (thus it works with the normal D&D deities) and Kossuth from Forgotten Realms/Faerun.

[phyxion]

In PF, the Arcane Trickster's capstone allows you to add your sneak attack damage to any spell that deals HP damage, so long as the targets are flat-footed to you. Stone Call is a level 2 spell with medium range, that does 2d6 bludgeoning to everything in a 40' radius, with no SR (conjuration!) and no save. Depending on how your DM reads the ability, you may need Sniper Goggles to apply SA at range over 30ft. It also works with Bludgeoner, if you want to deal nonlethal.

Unfortunately, it specifically calls out that the targets have to be flat-footed, so it's only really good as an opener (Snap Shot talent and Surprise Attacks talent, etc). Being invisible means those who can't see you lose their dex bonus to AC, and being flat-footed also means they lose their dex bonus to AC, but as far as I can tell being invisible doesn't actually make them flat-footed.

Still, medium range, 40' radius sneak attack (and potentially Str/Dex damage or bleed) is pretty nice for a 2nd level spell.

[phaedrusxy]

I think PF material should probably go here, but maybe someone should start a thread specifically for it?

[Jackinthegreen]

I wouldn't call PF 2nd party material since it is its own system after all.

Though it would be interesting to see what fun combos pop up and how they decide to nerf them into the ground when it comes to martial characters.

[deadkitten]

I would agree on the idea of giving Pathfinder its own thread. The sheer amount of volume involving its own content is a good justification as well as it being its own system. My only concern is that if Pathfinder got its own thread then then a 2nd or 3rd party Pathfinder fun finds thread would follow, and that's just a good chunk of fun finds threads.

[Jackinthegreen]

And at that point it might as well get its own subforum perhaps?  lol

[Amechra]

Here's more of a "the artist didn't get the memo" one:

On page 67 of Races of Destiny, Gibber Cabals of Illumians are described, who build torturous mazes to protect their enclaves.

The attendant map of one of those labyrinths is one of the most weaksauce "labyrinths" I've ever seen. Seriously, any "maze" where a 3 year old could solve it is just lazy.

[Jackinthegreen]

Fun thought:  Get the ability to assume the form of a hydra.  Proceed to take levels in kensai to imbue as many weapons as needed with the Mouthpick enhancement from Lords of Madness.  Better make sure to dodge the inevitably thrown book directed towards your head.

[SorO_Lost]

And to that I only have to say; "+1 Mouthpick Amulet of Natural Weapons"

[BearsAreBrown]

And to that I only have to say; "+1 Mouthpick Amulet of Natural Weapons"

Away from book. Mouthpick lets you make iterative attacks with a bite, right? ...can you multi-weapon fighting eight mouthpicks for a shitload of attacks?

And you do lose the bite attack, right?

stupid fucking Savage Species

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Hey.   
Where have you been?

[Jackinthegreen]

And to that I only have to say; "+1 Mouthpick Amulet of Natural Weapons"

Away from book. Mouthpick lets you make iterative attacks with a bite, right? ...can you multi-weapon fighting eight mouthpicks for a shitload of attacks?

And you do lose the bite attack, right?

stupid fucking Savage Species

Mouthpick allows iterative attacks with the weapon being held in the mouth, and the creature can't use the bite attack while wielding the weapon.

If going very strictly by the rules, MWF technically wouldn't apply because its requires "Three or more hands" since the designers definitely didn't expect creatures being able to use weapons any other way.  Some allowance was made to allow things like Prehensile Tail to work with the feat, but there are other cases like the mouthpick weapon ability where it really should have been noted.

By the way, Mouthpick isn't Savage Species.  You can blame Lords of Madness for it.  The Amulet of Natural Weapons is totally Savage Species though.

As far as the Amulet itself being a possibility goes, I don't think it would actually work in this case, at least as far as wielding actual weapons goes.  In this case it would turn the bite itself into a mouthpick weapon, which is pretty meaningless unless the wording's interpretation is twisted around to allow the creature to make iterative attacks with the bite.