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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #740 on: March 05, 2014, 12:04:57 PM »
The Manticore Sting feat from Dragonmarked is pretty cool, especially since it uses Daggers/Shurikens.

Remember this? I just remembered the Aptitude quality exists. We can now make Yumeko, provided we can bypass the inordinate price of enchanting that many weapons.

And since I realize that my previous post on the feat was rather lackluster, here you go:

Quote from: Dragonmarked pg 44
You are a master of the art of throwing numerous, sharp projectiles, such as daggers and darts.
Prerequisites: Mror dwarf, Dex 17, Quick Draw, base attack bonus +6.
Benefit: When you take this feat, the range increment for daggers, darts, or shuriken increases by 10 feet when you throw them. In addition, as a standard action, you can throw two such weapons at the same time, provided you throw them at a single target within 30 feet. Both weapons use the same attack roll (with a –4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special). The weapons you throw do not have to be of the same type.

For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional dagger, dart, or shuriken to this attack, to a maximum of four weapons (in any combination) at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each weapon after the second adds a cumulative –2 penalty on the attack roll, for a total penalty of –6 for three weapons, and –8 for four. Damage reduction and other resistances apply separately against each weapon thrown.

Special: Regardless of the number of weapons you throw, you only apply precision-based damage (such as sneak attack damage) once. If you score a critical hit, only the first thrown weapon deals critical hit damage; all the others deal regular damage. If throwing more than one type of weapon, you must declare which weapon you throw first before rolling damage.

Basically Dwarven Manyshot for knives. Or Minotaur Greathammers if you use Aptitude.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #741 on: March 05, 2014, 12:34:23 PM »
How does that work with our good friend Master Thrower?

EDIT: Sadly, Palm Throw doesn't look like it stacks with Manticore Sting. Pity. Still, it does stack with Two with One Blow and Palm Toss, which are lovely.

You know, once my schoolwork calms down, I have half a mind to write a handbook on volley attacks (of which, I think there's just Splitting, Manticore Sting, Manyshot, Palm Throw, and some stuff in d20 Modern. I'll go over what good sources of damage, nice stuff that adds to single attacks, and the like.)
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #742 on: March 05, 2014, 03:17:21 PM »
Manticore Sting + Wu Jen's Fire Shuriken?

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #743 on: March 06, 2014, 08:55:17 PM »
Gal-Ralan from Cormyr, the Tearing of the Weave. A level 4~7 adventure module.

They take up the arms slot and deal one point of Con damage while worn. It's stated that this damage cannot be recovered by any means so long as they are worn but saying nothing about if you're already immune to Con damage.

So why do I bring this up? Pretty much 40%~50% off Resistance Bonuses to Saves. 625gp for a +1 bonus (vs 1k) or 15,600 for +5 (vs 30k). As if you needed more reasons to become an Undead Creature.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #744 on: March 07, 2014, 12:05:45 PM »
Gal-Ralan from Cormyr, the Tearing of the Weave. A level 4~7 adventure module.

They take up the arms slot and deal one point of Con damage while worn. It's stated that this damage cannot be recovered by any means so long as they are worn but saying nothing about if you're already immune to Con damage.

So why do I bring this up? Pretty much 40%~50% off Resistance Bonuses to Saves. 625gp for a +1 bonus (vs 1k) or 15,600 for +5 (vs 30k). As if you needed more reasons to become an Undead Creature.

It's in Fiend Folio as well. Falls into that pay for power line such as Skin of Kaletor. Not sure how that plays out in custom item creation rules / cost reduction handbook analysis.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #745 on: March 07, 2014, 12:21:31 PM »
Gal-Ralan from Cormyr, the Tearing of the Weave. A level 4~7 adventure module.

They take up the arms slot and deal one point of Con damage while worn. It's stated that this damage cannot be recovered by any means so long as they are worn but saying nothing about if you're already immune to Con damage.

So why do I bring this up? Pretty much 40%~50% off Resistance Bonuses to Saves. 625gp for a +1 bonus (vs 1k) or 15,600 for +5 (vs 30k). As if you needed more reasons to become an Undead Creature.

That item is one of the main reasons one of my players always makes it a point to have an odd Constitution score for.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #746 on: March 07, 2014, 04:20:47 PM »
This might not necessarily be a fun find but this is from the Rules Compendium pg. 85 (which came out in 2007 for anyone who is wondering)

Spell Trigger

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Its an update to the Magic Item Rules that many people do not seem to be aware of, I could be wrong on that though.  :tongue

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #747 on: March 07, 2014, 06:48:12 PM »
Oh, we know. It's why Wands of Hunter's Eye, Wraithstrike, Golemstrike, and Gravestrike get mentioned in just about any Rogue thread.

Works great with Dungeonscape's Wand Hilts to. You don't even have to put down your weapon to draw the Wand.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #748 on: March 07, 2014, 11:04:45 PM »
I just noticed something cool. Skirmish damage applies to melee attacks, regardless of the range of said melee attack.

"She deals an extra 1d6 points of damage on all attacks she makes during any round in which she moves at least 10 feet."
^This is the qualifying statement for skirmish damage.
"Scouts can apply this extra damage to ranged attacks made while skirmishing, but only if the target is within 30 feet."
^This is a restriction for ranged attacks.

So...stretch armstrong can stab you all he wants.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #749 on: March 08, 2014, 05:07:24 PM »
Yeah, but only if it's melee. Who has more than 30ft melee attacks without also being 30ft wide?

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #750 on: March 08, 2014, 05:11:17 PM »
Just get a natural reach of 15'+, hit Expansion, and exploit the fact that Reach weapons for everyone but Medium doubles natural reach.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #751 on: March 08, 2014, 05:21:40 PM »
Yeah, but only if it's melee. Who has more than 30ft melee attacks without also being 30ft wide?

Glad you asked.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #752 on: March 08, 2014, 06:05:01 PM »
I thought everyone knew that's how skirmish worked. That's why I voted for TWF swift hunters in whatever that poll was...

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #753 on: March 08, 2014, 06:35:10 PM »
Glad you asked.
I like it, but needs more %Metal% Whirlwind Maneuvers from Tome of Battle. :)

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #754 on: March 08, 2014, 09:35:29 PM »
Glad you asked.
I like it, but needs more %Metal% Whirlwind Maneuvers from Tome of Battle. :)

Unfortunately, those things specify adjacent, rather than just what's within reach.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #755 on: March 08, 2014, 09:57:49 PM »
Glad you asked.
I like it, but needs more %Metal% Whirlwind Maneuvers from Tome of Battle. :)

Unfortunately, those things specify adjacent, rather than just what's within reach.

Indeed, that's why I went for some complementary stances instead. My group plays with a ton of feats, so I can generally get away with burning 5+ on feat chains.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #756 on: March 08, 2014, 11:56:46 PM »
Yeah, but only if it's melee. Who has more than 30ft melee attacks without also being 30ft wide?

The Bloodstorm Blade should be able to with the right equipment.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #757 on: March 09, 2014, 01:59:46 AM »
Yeah, but only if it's melee. Who has more than 30ft melee attacks without also being 30ft wide?

The Bloodstorm Blade should be able to with the right equipment.

The Bloodstorm Blade makes ranged strikes with melee weapons. The roll itself is a melee attack roll (for calculations), but as far as I can tell, it is still a ranged attack.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #758 on: March 09, 2014, 03:53:57 PM »
Yeah, but only if it's melee. Who has more than 30ft melee attacks without also being 30ft wide?

The Bloodstorm Blade should be able to with the right equipment.

The Bloodstorm Blade makes ranged strikes with melee weapons. The roll itself is a melee attack roll (for calculations), but as far as I can tell, it is still a ranged attack.

blood wind.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #759 on: March 09, 2014, 05:33:55 PM »
So funny thing about Barbarians and Illiteracy;

Illiteracy: Barbarians are the only characters who do not automatically know how to read and write. A barbarian may spend 2 skill points to gain the ability to read and write all languages he is able to speak.
A barbarian who gains a level in any other class automatically gains literacy. Any other character who gains a barbarian level does not lose the literacy he or she already had.

That's amusing with most prestige classes considered Barbarian appropriate such as the Primeval from Frostburn or the Frenzied Beserker.
Primeval is funny because of one of it's class features:

Regression (SU)
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So you learn to write as you get less intelligent? :lol