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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #960 on: April 30, 2014, 09:32:10 AM »
Swordsage dip with an aptitude weapon to nab both Weapon Focus feats required for High Sword Low Axe (it looks like none of the disciplines actually have both a sword an axe that will work with the feat, so you'll have to make one an aptitude weapon). Still, it's a nice feat if you can knock off some of the prereqs, and it's not like a swordsage dip is a bad thing for most builds.

Since High Sword Low Axe only requires Improved Trip, and not explicitly Expertise, we can use some of the alternative routes to picking it up (monk/barbarian variants, etc).
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #961 on: April 30, 2014, 02:14:59 PM »
Aptitude doesn't work to qualify you for High Sword Low Axe. It doesn't give you extra feats, it just lets you apply your existing weapon focus-like feats to the Aptitude weapon. Even if that meant that you count as having the feats for meeting qualifications, which I don't think it does, it still wouldn't work with HSLA because it asks for WF with a whole weapon type, not just that one axe you happen to be wielding right now.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #962 on: April 30, 2014, 02:27:49 PM »
Aptitude doesn't work to qualify you for High Sword Low Axe. It doesn't give you extra feats, it just lets you apply your existing weapon focus-like feats to the Aptitude weapon. Even if that meant that you count as having the feats for meeting qualifications, which I don't think it does, it still wouldn't work with HSLA because it asks for WF with a whole weapon type, not just that one axe you happen to be wielding right now.
I see what you're saying. Hmm... too bad none of the disciplines have both an axe and a sword from the list of things that work for this feat... I guess you'd at best get one free feat from Swordsage, and still have to actually take the other WF.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #963 on: April 30, 2014, 02:34:59 PM »
Aptitude doesn't work to qualify you for High Sword Low Axe. It doesn't give you extra feats, it just lets you apply your existing weapon focus-like feats to the Aptitude weapon. Even if that meant that you count as having the feats for meeting qualifications, which I don't think it does, it still wouldn't work with HSLA because it asks for WF with a whole weapon type, not just that one axe you happen to be wielding right now.
I see what you're saying. Hmm... too bad none of the disciplines have both an axe and a sword from the list of things that work for this feat... I guess you'd at best get one free feat from Swordsage, and still have to actually take the other WF.

Aptitude only works on feats and since discipline focus is a class feature, despite it giving you the benefit of weapon focus for weapons associated with a chosen discipline, it does not actually grant the feat itself.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #964 on: April 30, 2014, 04:48:01 PM »
Which oddly enough would mean that all it does is +1 to Attack, as you cannot then use it to qualify. Hn, RAW's screwy (like a wabbit). I guess the intention was to give WF. At least it stacks with Weapon Focus, so the cost a feat, you gain a whole +2 to attack! (unless that falls under feat stacking rules!). Good grief.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #965 on: April 30, 2014, 06:22:31 PM »
Though in the FAQ it is specifically indicated that it counts as actually having the Weapon Focus feat.  :flutter

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #966 on: April 30, 2014, 09:22:15 PM »
With being affected by Baleful Polymorph, do you...
#1 keep your ECL
#2 LA+animal HD

if #2, this makes an Atropal pc have an overall ECL of -35 post Baleful Polymorph.
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #967 on: April 30, 2014, 11:02:26 PM »
With being affected by Baleful Polymorph, do you...
#1 keep your ECL
#2 LA+animal HD

if #2, this makes an Atropal pc have an overall ECL of -35 post Baleful Polymorph.

If #1, then ECL means absolutely nothing. :-P

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #968 on: April 30, 2014, 11:10:12 PM »
Though in the FAQ it is specifically indicated that it counts as actually having the Weapon Focus feat.  :flutter
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #969 on: April 30, 2014, 11:22:52 PM »
With being affected by Baleful Polymorph, do you...
#1 keep your ECL
#2 LA+animal HD

if #2, this makes an Atropal pc have an overall ECL of -35 post Baleful Polymorph.

If #1, then ECL means absolutely nothing. :-P

true, was looking at some crazy animal-related spell cheese.
like a Gnome Wizard that turns into a Raven, then is awakened w Sudden Empower/Maximize, then Ghost Companion spell.

then you're a Ghost Raven Wizard w 27 Int w ~2 racial HD (due to ignoring the 1 base HD?) + Wizard levels

how would Invisible Spell interact w Baleful Polymorph?  :twitch

it seems like Baleful Polymorph can apply templates to the animal form (ex. Paragon Badger)
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #970 on: May 01, 2014, 12:37:24 PM »
With a DMG to the face.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #971 on: May 01, 2014, 03:40:56 PM »
dodges book 1d20 : 12, total 12
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #972 on: May 01, 2014, 04:10:12 PM »
You forgot the book is an improvised weapon (-4) and the DM doesn't exercise (-1 or so) ;)

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #973 on: May 01, 2014, 04:15:32 PM »
You forgot the book is an improvised weapon (-4) and the DM doesn't exercise (-1 or so) ;)
One of my DM's would beg to differ... (Weightlifter, and since book would be a thrown weapon... +2 or so instead xP)

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #974 on: May 01, 2014, 04:28:09 PM »
Flat-footed, though, and unarmoured; unless they come prepared. In which case the DM should roll a Knowledge (Shenanigans) check and be aware that something is about to go down, and prepare a Contingent (Nope) spell in advance.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #975 on: May 02, 2014, 02:38:21 AM »
Always have a Contingent (Nope) spell prepared.  Always.

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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #976 on: May 02, 2014, 03:27:06 AM »
Some scariness just happened...

made an awakened Half-Clay Golem Paragon Weasel Factotum 3

194hp, all his stats between 24 and 29, 63 AC and has a Bite +40 melee (1d3+33 plus attach +14 grapple)

all this as an ECL 6 ex-orc barbarian 6

looking at the DMG, I should change him to a Ferret or Hedgehog
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a hedgehog rolling into a ball doesn't appear to affect its movement?
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #977 on: May 02, 2014, 09:24:14 AM »
have you seen Critters (1986)  :D
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #978 on: May 02, 2014, 10:28:38 AM »
Does Gremlins count? :P

we had a couple of the Critters movies at my video store job 10yrs ago
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Re: Fun Finds v5.0
« Reply #979 on: May 04, 2014, 04:31:03 PM »
Some scariness just happened...

made an awakened Half-Clay Golem Paragon Weasel Factotum 3

194hp, all his stats between 24 and 29, 63 AC and has a Bite +40 melee (1d3+33 plus attach +14 grapple)

all this as an ECL 6 ex-orc barbarian 6

looking at the DMG, I should change him to a Ferret or Hedgehog
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a hedgehog rolling into a ball doesn't appear to affect its movement?

tasmanian devil.

badger.

honey badger.