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Gauntlet - Break the CR
« on: October 14, 2013, 01:13:20 PM »
Goals for this:
Having fun.
This is a gauntlet, to measure your toon's ability to handle DnD situations. Not all toons can handle all situations, nor can they handle them equally well.
Seeing level breaks. This shows how toons change their focus/impact as they level.

Caveat:
This is a gauntlet for solo characters, as such none of the normal party dynamics are available. This means that the person who normally buffs other party members is shown as weaker than normal. It also means that the person who normally is buffed is weaker as well.

You don't need to go through all the scenarios, but it is definitely interesting to see your toon level.

I think I have everything covered, but knowing min-maxers, I have huge gaps remaining.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 01:13:34 PM »
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 01:22:14 PM »
Rat in Farmhouse:
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 02:02:22 PM »
Well this looks familiar. :D Don't know that I'll have time to participate this time (in med school), but I'll definitely watch with interest. It might be fun to run some homebrew material through here just to see how it matches up vs. "official" stuff.
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 02:06:31 PM »
Hey!!! I remember you!!

Notice: I toned down the rules to eliminate a lot of the back-and-forth that resulted in flame wars in the old days.
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2013, 02:11:51 PM »
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2013, 03:07:26 PM »
Hm, I guess I can't use my Artificer due to the no reducing costs of items thing... :( oh well. I'll think of something.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2013, 03:46:28 PM »
You can use your artificer, just list in the character the need for that. Also, artificers without action points are a lot harder to play. If you need them, just put that in your character description.

Honestly, that rule is there to prevent discussion about a wand of alter self made by a 5th level sanctum spell'ed guy with - mage slayer, (CL1, Spell Level 1), which is only usable by a LG grey elf ... so, 10g/charge.

Or other such nonsense.

Remember, this is for fun and to see what your toon can do. The rules are only there to try to allow for easier comparison between entrants.
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2013, 04:02:46 PM »
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2013, 04:36:56 PM »
I'm going to try and only use retraining rules and the same base character to go through the scenarios. Wish me luck, I'm going mundane!

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2013, 04:40:42 PM »
is this just the monsters or the chars too? if so, what level?
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2013, 04:48:53 PM »
You can use your artificer, just list in the character the need for that. Also, artificers without action points are a lot harder to play. If you need them, just put that in your character description.

Honestly, that rule is there to prevent discussion about a wand of alter self made by a 5th level sanctum spell'ed guy with - mage slayer, (CL1, Spell Level 1), which is only usable by a LG grey elf ... so, 10g/charge.

Or other such nonsense.

Remember, this is for fun and to see what your toon can do. The rules are only there to try to allow for easier comparison between entrants.
Oh, yeah, I don't use the broken (in my opinion) Sanctum Spell / Mageslayer / Etc Etc, though I do dive off of other lists (Trapsmith, you are my only friend). Cleric spell only? What level would a Cleric get it at? That's the CL, then. Etc etc.

My usual Artificer is making things only for TN Humans with ranks in UMD :P
It'll probably work anyways... at least at level 2+. Level 1, there's... ouch.

By "Ouch", I'm referring to the low amount of gold to spend.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2013, 04:50:30 PM »
This is an example from when we ran it years and years ago. Since that point, a lot had been learned about optimization as well as more splat books coming out. I am only posting this as a sample. It will be upgraded before being a serious entrant.

Your character should be the same CR as the scenario you are running, however if you need more or less levels, then submit it that way.

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Although you would only list one of the two, since this is an example, I am listing both methods for damage.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2013, 05:02:45 PM »
By "Ouch", I'm referring to the low amount of gold to spend.
Acid flasks are pretty cheap. :P
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2013, 05:34:53 PM »
I'm assuming that this is a 3.5 contest, and Pathfinder need not apply? If it can, there are a couple of highly entertaining archetypes which I might bring in.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2013, 06:10:42 PM »
By "Ouch", I'm referring to the low amount of gold to spend.
Acid flasks are pretty cheap. :P
That they are, except that they only work when you have friends to tank for you at low levels... or else you do 1d4 damage then get squished by whatever monster you just pissed off :P

I'm assuming that this is a 3.5 contest, and Pathfinder need not apply? If it can, there are a couple of highly entertaining archetypes which I might bring in.
It'd be interesting... -shrug- Not applicable to me, though.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2013, 07:08:57 PM »
I seem to remember something similar to this waaay back when on the old Co forums. I recall making a spartan inspired barbarian/fighter for the first three rounds. On another side note... Runehounds are horrible OP for their CR.  :shakefist

I'll have to see if I can take another shot at this.  :D

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:21 PM »
By "Ouch", I'm referring to the low amount of gold to spend.
Acid flasks are pretty cheap. :P
That they are, except that they only work when you have friends to tank for you at low levels... or else you do 1d4 damage then get squished by whatever monster you just pissed off :P

Dragonborn for flight? Most monsters at low levels lack ranged attacks (except for humanoids). Being mounted is a pretty good strategy for low level ranged combatants, also. Maybe use the spell (or a wand, etc) of Launch Item to throw them?
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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2013, 10:12:20 PM »
Just a note for anyone using the Threshold method. You can get your first 65% "success" on an opposed check by having a modifier at least 3 points greater than your opponent (66% chance of winning). Just putting this helpful tidbit out there.

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Re: Gauntlet - Break the CR
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 10:34:33 PM »
20 AC rat? Ouch. Sucks for Melees. Well, I'm bored of mundanes for the moment.

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Just a note for anyone using the Threshold method. You can get your first 65% "success" on an opposed check by having a modifier at least 3 points greater than your opponent (66% chance of winning). Just putting this helpful tidbit out there.
On the same Token, per Threshold any Arcane Spell Failure equal to or below 35% is ignored. Which means you can wear Full-Plate :)
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