Gearing a Dragon

[Dawnmor]

Im not sure this is the best place for this question but I was curious, if you had a dragon in a game, of any level, how would you gear them ? to increase there already impressive capabilities ?

[nijineko]

well, most dragons can use magic items, and there are a lot of dragon-specific listed in the draconomicon.

[DavidWL]

Im not sure this is the best place for this question but I was curious, if you had a dragon in a game, of any level, how would you gear them ? to increase there already impressive capabilities ?

Bunkos is always a good place to look as well
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1002.0

Best,
David

[Kasz]

Im not sure this is the best place for this question but I was curious, if you had a dragon in a game, of any level, how would you gear them ? to increase there already impressive capabilities ?

I'd roll their horde randomly and then equip them from that.

A Dragon who gets unlucky might have nothing but magic longswords in his horde which are useless to him... but he might have nothing but wands, which give him a few options. Generally he'll have a mix and some of it will be useable... most magic items to reshape and size to the wearer after all.

A Dragon is smart enough to know that bracers of armour are handy....but anything that slows him down or doesn't add to his preferred method of killing isn't worth wearing but can be worth hoarding.

[Meiliken]

Im not sure this is the best place for this question but I was curious, if you had a dragon in a game, of any level, how would you gear them ? to increase there already impressive capabilities ?

I'd roll their horde randomly and then equip them from that.

A Dragon who gets unlucky might have nothing but magic longswords in his horde which are useless to him... but he might have nothing but wands, which give him a few options. Generally he'll have a mix and some of it will be useable... most magic items to reshape and size to the wearer after all.

A Dragon is smart enough to know that bracers of armour are handy....but anything that slows him down or doesn't add to his preferred method of killing isn't worth wearing but can be worth hoarding.

Actually, they don't change size unless they have the Sizing property.  Additionally, items don't change shape unless they have the property(name escapes me/half asleep) that allows them to.

[jungledude]

Because magic items that must be worn will fit users of
any size, a dragon can use any magic item a humanoid character
can

from Draconomicon

Essentially a dragon can wear most stuff humanoids wear.
Only armor must be made to measure.

[Meiliken]

Because magic items that must be worn will fit users of
any size, a dragon can use any magic item a humanoid character
can

from Draconomicon

Essentially a dragon can wear most stuff humanoids wear.
Only armor must be made to measure.

Heh, that's why too many things are ambiguous.  Kinda makes Sizing a pointless property since one can just say that the item is bigger.  A character gets a graft(or naturally born) that gives no bonuses, but gives him large hands.  Now that his hands are large, and magic items automatically size for the users, he now can wield a large weapon at no penalty and no feat(not counting proficiency).  That seems too broken to me.  I'll always hold to it needing Sizing.

Here's a scenario for you.  You're medium, in your party, you also have a gnome.  You defeat giants.  They drop giant sized equipment(all magical).  No one is strong enough to carry it.  Lightbulb!  The gnome touches them, they shrink because they're magic and change for his size(but no Sizing property).  Wow, now they're all small, they can be carried with ease now.  See how broken that is?  Sorry, they need Sizing property.  If I was the DM 

[linklord231]

I initially read the title and OP as "Gearing a Dragoon" and my first thought was "with a really big spear, duh."

Magic Items resize to fit the wearer.  That doesn't include Magic Weapons or Armor.  So, a Ring of Featherfall will fit whoever wants to wear it, but +1 Heavy Fortification Armor won't. 

[CaptRory]

If you're looking for a compromise, as several issues have been brought up, I'd say magic equipment could go up or down one size and retains the weight and damage of its original size which would give you a clue that it was originally made for someone bigger/smaller than you. That would give magical resizing powers a place at the table because it would normalize weight and damage and allow use across all sizes.

I know someone'll shoot a bunch of holes in that, but any benefit would fall mostly on the melee guys who need the love, I would think; like a Halfling wielding a medium sized dagger without penalty.

[geniussavant]

Magic Items resize to fit the wearer.  That doesn't include Magic Weapons or Armor.  So, a Ring of Featherfall will fit whoever wants to wear it, but +1 Heavy Fortification Armor won't.

This was always my interpretation of the rules.

[phaedrusxy]

Magic Items resize to fit the wearer.  That doesn't include Magic Weapons or Armor.  So, a Ring of Featherfall will fit whoever wants to wear it, but +1 Heavy Fortification Armor won't.

This was always my interpretation of the rules.

The rules are pretty explicit on this, yeah. That's why Sizing is a weapon property. Weapons don't re-size.

Size And Magic Items
When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn’t be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.

There may be rare exceptions, especially with racial specific items.

Armor and Weapon Sizes
Armor and weapons that are found at random have a 30% chance of being Small (01-30), a 60% chance of being Medium (31-90), and a 10% chance of being any other size (91-100).

Now to get back on topic a bit... A Necklace of Natural Armor and Wand of Scintillating Scales might be good, if you expect the PCs to be using touch attacks (and dragons should know they have abysmal touch ACs). I'd also suggest some kind of item to give them resistance to whatever element they are weak to (potion of Protection from Energy?).

And a Necklace of Natural Attacks might come in handy. Or you could have it use a wand of (Greater) Magic Fang, etc.