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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2012, 07:45:15 AM »
Reading Madame Bovary, for a class.  I feel vaguely like I'm rooting for the wrong team, given the professor's comments to date. . . .

God, I hated that book (and the class it went with) with a fiery passion.
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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2012, 08:49:00 PM »
Reading Madame Bovary, for a class.  I feel vaguely like I'm rooting for the wrong team, given the professor's comments to date. . . .

God, I hated that book (and the class it went with) with a fiery passion.

Agh, I remember reading that and those 3 pages talking about how his hat looked like... Not to question all the things Madame Bovary did, Literature-wise, but I'll stick to fantasy.

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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2012, 06:54:24 PM »
Read Before I fall by Lauren Oliver,it was interesting,but not soemthing i'll buy. I wanna read Article 5 by Kristen Simmons next.

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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2012, 08:25:46 PM »
Anna Karenina, for reasons wholly unrelated to its being pinned by Mrs. Romney.
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2012, 11:25:27 PM »
I'm re-reading Anathem. I forgot how awesome this book is even if it does contain the phrase "pre-owned-pornography store."

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« Reply #65 on: March 02, 2012, 05:34:26 AM »
Read The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. A bit weird (in a good way) and a very nice read if you want something that you can start and finish in a day or two.
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« Reply #66 on: March 02, 2012, 05:35:01 AM »
Gail Z. Martin's Chronicles of the Necromancer

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The only book that has managed to self-insert itself into its fiction and not make me mad is House of Leaves.

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Well, what about LoTR? The Hobbit is supposed to be the book the Bilbo Baggins wrote, and the Trilogy is the book that Frodo later writes after the events in Return of The King... There's a very nice self insert lol!

I have recently read House of the Dead by Fiodor Dostoyevski and thoroughly enjoyed its depictions of the reality of the Siberian Prison Camps. I've been reading a lot of non-fiction lately though... Although i've picked up the 3rd Lovecraft book by Penguin, titled "Dreams in the Witchhouse and other Weird Stories", and i'm going to read it next. It's so nice that i can read one story per day, and not the whole book in one sitting like i usually do with fiction because i'm so impatient... I've acquired the Hardcover Canterbury Collection "Collected Works" for Edgar Allan Poe and i'm really impressed by it's qualities. It looks lovely in my shelf, and it's really complete, and very nicely edited! I loved the little interaction between Arthur Gordon Pym and "At the Mountains of Madness" by Lovecraft... Teke-li-li indeeed!

Game of Thrones & Friends are next, and then Ivanhoe... But the pile just keeps getting bigger...

I've been loving to read the books by Joe Hill. I've acquired 20th Century Ghosts & Heart Shaped Box, and i've been meaning to get the new one, "Horns"... Has anyone read it? What's the veredict?
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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2012, 09:52:42 AM »
Horns is pretty decent - definitely worth reading if you're already a Hill fan. 

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« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2012, 11:48:21 AM »
i love dostoyevski, and most other russian lit  of that period.

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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2012, 02:19:49 AM »
Just got done the other day reading what basically amounts to a love letter to the 80s called "Ready Player One" by Ernest Cline, I checked it out from the library and sicne I enjoyed it a lot i plan to get my own copy of it as soon as I can.  The frist page has a shout out to Ghostbuster and it jsut gets better from there.

Half of the fun of reading it was figureing out the reference to 80s pop culture and the other half was wanting to know what was going to happen next.   

Next I plan to read Side Jobs by Jim Butch before reading Ghost Story. I'm currently waiting for my library to get "Fear" by Micheal Grant,which is the newest book in the Gone series,which has been described as "If Stephen King wrote Lord of the Flies"     

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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2012, 06:43:02 PM »
so I recently discovered that a couple of the books I've read recently have trailers on youtube

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« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2012, 02:25:56 PM »
I've re-read the Silmarillion in a spur of new interest, and have read quite a few of the stories on the Dreams in the Witchhouse and Other Weird Stories Lovecraft collection by penguin.

I liked Dream Quest to Unknown Kadath, but it seemed to be begging to be more thoroughly fleshed out. It seems Lovecraft packed so much creative juice into so few pages... The thing itself is also difficult to make sense of sometimes, especially given that it conflicts with mostly every story that was published before it. Many locations that he now placed at the Dreamworlds were already established to reside on the Real World, and as such, the story itself works as a reboot of the Mythos, although he DID think of creating something to justify the presence of locations on both the real world and the dream world - in some places, they mingle together, and a dream traveller can go to the real world and vice versa...

Overall, i really enjoyed seeing Randolph Carter in action again, although, as i have said, i think Lovecraft packed too much creative juice into too few pages, and the story itself lacked a bit of developing. Randolph literally goes ALL OVER the dreamworld over the course of 120 pages. He goes to the Moon, to the Abyss, to Celephaïs, Kadath, Ulthar and the surrounding regions, etc... And he tried to describe it's residents, fauna, & flora, but his attempt to bring verossimility to the world pales in comparison to the efforts of, for example, George R. Martin and Tolkien.

Of course, this is a result of the conditions that lovecraft himself had to face on the real real world... No money, his stories were his bread, and had to be marketeable. Dream Quest wasn't readily accepted for publication, as wasn't his previous (and in my opinion, best that i've read so far) story, At the Mountains of Madness.

My opinion of Lovecraft, as i read his stories from start to finish, goes from brilliant to mediocre. A story he ghostwrote, Under the Pyramids, for example, is pretty brilliant, as is At the Mountains of Madness and The Colour out of Space. But "The Other Gods", "The Moon-Bog", and many others, are pretty mediocre, and the plot, if you can call it that, could have been thought of by a 5 year old without much effort on his part.

Actually, i dislike most of his "Dunsanian" stories, into which he tries to mimick his idol. The White Ship, Celephaïs and many others, are good, but not brilliant in any case. He was best when the source of his inspiration was Poe, and you can clearly see it in stories like The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, which is simply BRILLIANT, and The Thing in the Doorstep, as well as Shadow over Innsmouth, Call of Ctulhu, and other classic mythos related suspense/horror stories.

I really wished Lovecraft had received appropriate funding, and could produce his work without being subject to time and monetary constraints. It just seems to me that his creative genius was too bullied into submission, and eventually got lost somewhat in his later stories. Although he still managed gems like The Shadow out of Time. It would've been nice if he didn't seek to profit on his writing, and instead took his time, like tolkien did, depending financially on other activities, but his genius was that type that cant really be contained and not presented into public for too long. His life was a short but productive one, and i'm thinking now of pursuing some other Mythos writers that took up his mantle after his death.

Who knows, maybe i'll even write some...
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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2012, 05:59:47 PM »
back to being up to date with the Enderverse.

was disappointed w/ Earth Unaware. the upswing is it left me wanting more... the downside was it seemed pretty hollow overall, the more i was left wanting would be the meat of a regular book.

i guess they have comics that have more content but i thought thats what i was getting w/ the book.

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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2012, 10:20:50 PM »
back to being up to date with the Enderverse.

was disappointed w/ Earth Unaware. the upswing is it left me wanting more... the downside was it seemed pretty hollow overall, the more i was left wanting would be the meat of a regular book.

i guess they have comics that have more content but i thought thats what i was getting w/ the book.

I wasn't aware that it was out yet, i've been reading YA highschool romance stuff (no not twilight) to help me write my book better

Read Before I fall by Lauren Oliver,it was interesting,but not soemthing i'll buy. I wanna read Article 5 by Kristen Simmons next.

After reading BEfore I faLL a few more itmes, I do wanna buy it, i've also read 13 reasons by Jay asher and that's naother one to hte list of Wanna buy.
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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2012, 06:20:56 AM »
Just re-read Embassytown by Mieville.  It's far weirder on a second run through, knowing what is going to happen means your able to focus more on just how alien the Hosts are and how impossible Language should be.
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« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2012, 09:35:11 AM »
http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Unaware-Formic-Orson-Scott/dp/0765329042

back to being up to date with the Enderverse.

was disappointed w/ Earth Unaware. the upswing is it left me wanting more... the downside was it seemed pretty hollow overall, the more i was left wanting would be the meat of a regular book.

i guess they have comics that have more content but i thought thats what i was getting w/ the book.

I wasn't aware that it was out yet, i've been reading YA highschool romance stuff (no not twilight) to help me write my book better

Read Before I fall by Lauren Oliver,it was interesting,but not soemthing i'll buy. I wanna read Article 5 by Kristen Simmons next.

After reading BEfore I faLL a few more itmes, I do wanna buy it, i've also read 13 reasons by Jay asher and that's naother one to hte list of Wanna buy.
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« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2012, 12:39:02 PM »
I forgot about Bilbo writing about his journeys in LotR. That's alright because it was such a smug way of going about it. It wasn't a secondary character being all, "Imma write our journeys and title them the same thing as the book we're in while we still in it!" Bilbo writing about his adventures decades later to preserve them for memory and recording an (ultimately) important piece of history in Middle Earth is quite different than trying to create an accurate log of the characters activities WHILE they are on pseudo-military expedition and somehow also having knowledge of events you didn't witness and then implying what I have in my hands is what that character wrote. Maybe it's a double standard, Iunno. It just feltbadman. 

I really wished Lovecraft had received appropriate funding, and could produce his work without being subject to time and monetary constraints. It just seems to me that his creative genius was too bullied into submission, and eventually got lost somewhat in his later stories. Although he still managed gems like The Shadow out of Time. It would've been nice if he didn't seek to profit on his writing, and instead took his time, like tolkien did, depending financially on other activities, but his genius was that type that cant really be contained and not presented into public for too long. His life was a short but productive one, and i'm thinking now of pursuing some other Mythos writers that took up his mantle after his death.

Who knows, maybe i'll even write some...

I agree whole heartedly with this, but you also have to look at Lovecraft's character as to why he didn't rely on funding from something else and instead wrote as a living -- which is a very difficult profession to make a living out of, either you strike gold with some genius series or books, or you turn out literary trash every month based on the latest trend knowing teen girls, fan boys and bored house wives will buy it.

He was essentially a shut in with a passion for astronomy and fiction. He -- if I remember correctly -- didn't much care for himself and had a plethora of daddy issues and considered himself much more intelligent than his peers but could never seem to get ahead. Aside from his outstanding racism (you know its bad when people tell you need to chill your racism and it's still ok to be racist), I actually relate to him in a lot of ways. Poor guy. He just needed a big hug.

I feel sorry for Clark Ashton Smith, too. He lost both Robert E. Howard AND Lovecraft in less than a year. He just...stopped writing and disappeared from the weird fiction scene. :(((((((((

As for what I'm reading now, I finally got around to starting The Aspect-Emperor I: The Judging Eye. It's pretty good so far, after I remembered how much time he spent on character development and backstory in the first trilogy and forgot that when the shit hits the fan, it's even more epic because of that. It's not routine to see someone resorted to magic to do something, it's something someone does only when necessary and then only after something else has been tried. Kristie told me that there is a dragon fight in this book or the next. Achamian AND a Nonman sorcerer vs a dragon?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! To quote cracked: "Level of mind blowingness: Four Hemmingway Suicides"

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Re: The Book Club: Fiction Discussion Thread
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2012, 05:59:00 AM »
I read Earth Unaware thought it was okay,about to start reading: We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency by Parmy Olson and i'm also wiating for Fear by Micheal Grant to show up it's the most recent in the Gone series,also picked up book three of The Lost heros series by Rick Roadian and omg I can't wait till book four.

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« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2012, 06:13:21 AM »
Just started reading Towers of Midnight. After that I plan on reading The Hobbit in English for the first time. Depending on how much reading my studies allows me I may or may not pick up the first book of The Farseer trilogy before the last WoT book is out
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« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2012, 07:07:22 AM »
I may or may not pick up the first book of The Farseer trilogy before the last WoT book is out

Do! Though be aware it's more a trilogy of trilogies or a 'nonology'. Farseer, Liveship, Tawny Man trilogies all make up a big story. And the Rain Wild Chronicles pick up in the aftermath
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