d20 like project - need help with ghost

[Atmo]

So, i'm trying to work something with Tormenta RPG, a brazillian attempt on suck even more on the OGL and earn some hardworked cash from 14 old kids who don't know anything better and D&D widows & haters who complaim A LOT at anything Jambo Editora (the people behind Tormenta RPG) try to sell.

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Mechanic wise, here are some insights:
• Characters have LA+2 if compared to other d20/D&D characters, as they are effectively stronger;
• Spell slots are dead, now we (?) have Spell Points that changes accordingly the magical class (casting ability + 1 at 1st level then + 2~3 SP every level);
• Races are created with a +4 +2 -2 template for abilities, something i don't like all the time.

So, why i'm here to asking for help? Because the actual "pros" of this system hate me as a person. Well, wasn't so hard to show them that they are grognard who can't stop buying and playing something they *yell* that is bad designed, bland, aimed at otaku kids/creep adults (because the trilogy of books by Leonel Caldela were petrified women genitalia worked as decoration on some crazy chaos god mansion) and cliched as hell. Yes, i agree with some points, but i don't want to use this lame scenario, only "their" (butchered) d20 system to generate more views on my blog, this shit sells like water on desert.

Tell me what you guys think of those two races, please.

Wolf Tengu:
• +2 Dex, -2 Int, +2 Wis
• Scent: +2 on Perception tests to track targets and +2 on Survival tests while on hostile environment. Wolf Tengu detects automatically any creature at 9 meters range.
• Low-light Vision: 18 meters range.
• Maturity: every so so levels Wolf Tengu receive a new ability.
    3° - Dark Vision18m;
    6° - See invisibility 18m;
    9° - Scent goes to +4;
    12° - True Seeing;
    15° - True Seeing range is doubled.

Crow Tengu:
• +4 Dex, -2 Cha, +2 Wis.
• Flight: fly with double walk speed.
• Low-light Vision: 18 meters range.
• Gossip: Gains Craft (Journalism) as class skill and +2 bonus on Gather Information tests.

Inspired by this post.

[oslecamo]

I see what you did there.

[Atmo]

I see what you did there.

Yep, but "stronger". Normal characters on Tormenta RPG can have 20~22 on one stat on level 1, that's why i want to give the races more than PF archetypes (something i don't like imho).

[Atmo]

Now, Oni:

Oni:
• +4 Str, +4 Con, -4 Int, -2 Cha
• Strong Constitution: they can use equipment that are one category higher than then without problem. Don't add with feats.
• Low-light Vision: 18 meters range.
• Alcohol Resistance: receive half penalty to tests when drunk. Some of then use this state as a combat advantage.
• Strange Weakness: they are weak to fried beans, avoiding contact with them because paralysis state if ingested for 3d8+6 minutes. *Entry about human being cruel with oni at past, doing bad and ugly things to them.*

[DavidWL]

I see what you did there.

Yep, but "stronger". Normal characters on Tormenta RPG can have 20~22 on one stat on level 1, that's why i want to give the races more than PF archetypes (something i don't like imho).

I think the point is that it is completely ok to use people's stuff and build upon it, but you should at least cite them and thank them for (indirectly) helping you with your project ...

Best,
David

[Atmo]

I see what you did there.

Yep, but "stronger". Normal characters on Tormenta RPG can have 20~22 on one stat on level 1, that's why i want to give the races more than PF archetypes (something i don't like imho).

I think the point is that it is completely ok to use people's stuff and build upon it, but you should at least cite them and thank them for (indirectly) helping you with your project ...

Best,
David

That was good and all, but i'm still trying to figure if that kind of character would be "the rule" on this project. I'm not rushing it for organization issues, so is very probable that aren't the final version.

[Atmo]

So, i'm struggling with Ghost/Phantom stats and couldn't think anything useful. Help?