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Offline Rhyn

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[Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« on: December 15, 2013, 01:52:29 PM »
Hi !

So, we're having a pathfinder one-shot next saturday, and I was thinking of making a human wizard (conjuration specialist, teleportation variant). The problem is, when I asked about magic items, the GM told that we would have the starting gold of lvl 1 characters. But, and here is the thing, we could ask for one "gift from the GM". And as an example, he suggested an invisibility cloak. So there went my extend metamagic rod and my wands.

The other players are going 2-hander Paladin, Rogue, Druid, Warrior

Here is my current build:

LN Human Wizard (Conjuration specialist, teleportation variant) 5
Banned schools : Enchantment & Necromancy

Abilities (with 18, 16, 14, 12, 12, 10, 8)
Str 8 Dex 16 Con 14 Int 18+2 (human), Wis 12, Cha 12

Feats :

Spell focus (conjuration), Augment summoning, superior summoning
I still have to choose two : one wizard feat (rapid studying, extend spell or spell mastery ?), and one general feat (thinkong of Improved Initiative, Combat casting or Improved familiar and go for earth or air elemental)

Skills

Appraise 1, Craft (alchemy) 1, Fly 1, Knowledge (Arcana & Planes) 5 (Nature & Religion) 2, (others) 1, Linguistics 4 (Celestial, Abyssal, Infernal, Elven), Perception 5, Ride 1, Spellcraft 5, UMD 2

Spells  (4)/5+1/3+1/2+1

0: Detect Magic, Acid Splash, Ghost sound, Prestidigitation (should I swap something for Mage hand ?)
1: Grease, Mage armor, Color Spray, Enlarge Person, Protection from Evil, Silent Image
2: Glitterdust, Mirror Image, Web, Summon Monster 2 (I was also thinking Bull's strenght, Flaming sphere and Invisibility ...)
3: Haste, Summon Monster 3, Fireball (or maybe Fly ?)

And, finally, what item should I ask for ? A ring of wizardry, maybe ?
Any advice welcome, really !
« Last Edit: December 15, 2013, 04:31:57 PM by Rhyn »

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 03:00:37 PM »
Ask for a loaded spellbook.

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2013, 05:21:44 PM »
Load up with alchemical items. They are incredibly useful and non-magical. I did a lot of research compiling this guys items (similar game, only 1 magic item, but starting at 3rd). So you might want to check out his alchemical golf bag. As for which magic item, I'd ask for something that can make you almost invulnerable while active, like a Cube of Force. Then you can throw out your spells (BFC, summons, etc) and retreat into your cube while your allies finish them off. Train your familiar to operate the cube, and it won't even cost you actions. :D

Also, get some Liquid Smoke (Oriental Adventures) and always prep a Rope Trick. Teach your familiar to activate the Liquid Smoke, also. Then you can set that off, and jump in the Rope Trick to "escape" from a bad situation.
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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2013, 06:23:40 PM »
Boccobs blessed book.

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 07:39:41 PM »
Thanks for your answers !

I am unsure about a spellbook - this is a one shot, after all, so I won't use that much a boccob's blessed book.
The alchemical items, though, is a wonderful idea. More so as I can create those, so they'll cost me a lot less ( and with only 70gp, less is good !)

But, in pathfinder, you can't hide the rope from the rope trick, so I am unsure if this trick will work

Also, update. Taking the teleportation variant would count as the "gift". So that, or an item. I'm leaning toward teleportation, juste for the sheer usefulness of it.

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 08:24:35 PM »
You mean Abrupt Jaunt? Yeah... that's probably worth having no magic items...

70 gp? That's just... insane. If you make it yourself, you can get a jug of Shapesand for 33 gp. With that, you can make just about any other mundane item you could possibly want (and even multiple items at once, since nothing says you can't split it up). So I'd make that #1 on your list. I'd probably spend the rest crafting Healing Salve, unless you have someone who is going to be devoted to keeping your party healed.
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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 11:34:29 PM »
If you can get some, probably by making it yourself, shapesand is definitely your best bet. I don't think I've made a character without it unless I didn't have access to it. Hell, I've see characters that use little more than shapesand besides their magical items. There's really no good reason to not use shapesand if at all possible. As it's easily more cost-->usefulness efficient than any other non-magical item that I've seen. Really only your imagination and DM ruling limit what you can do with it.
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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 09:06:50 AM »
I don't know if they're in PF, but Smoke Sticks seem good. I played in a level 1 core game recently and this is what I did with my gold: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=463379

Hopefully Stream will post here. He seems like the town PF guy.
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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 10:09:53 AM »
I'd ignored the fact that this was for Pf... Is 3.5/3.0 material allowed at all? My suggestions were all for 3.5, as I'm not that familiar with Pf.
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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 04:22:53 PM »
Chances are you could slide/sneak in your "normal" spellbook.
Be ready to whine a "but it's a class feature" -based defense of it.
If this doesn't work, there's a BIG problem with being a Wizard.

1 CMage reserve feat, for a failsafe shtick.

The MacGyver thread/handbook has every cheap item possible.
Eggshell grenades , etc


PF ?
What is this PF I keep hearing about?

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 08:54:34 PM »
Thanks for all the input !

Unfortunately, i'm getting more and more reduced to pathfinder core only, so shapesand and reserve feats are out. I managed to get the liquid smoke, though. I'll take some time to read through the cheap items guides, and see what I can get out of it.

I'll just need to pick between Improved initiative or Improved familiar (earth or air elemental, instead of my hawk), then I'm set. Also, maybe take a last look at my spell selection (going battlefield control/buff).

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Re: [Pf] Human Wizard 5, no starting gold
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 11:35:27 PM »
Imp Init for the win!