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Offline Waazraath

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Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« on: December 17, 2013, 09:51:49 AM »
Handbook is here!Comments, suggestions and builds are welcome.
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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2013, 12:01:59 PM »
One error correction: Dusklings are not Small

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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 12:43:37 PM »
One error correction: Dusklings are not Small

Thanks, fixed!

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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 02:41:17 PM »
Huh ... well o.k. there wasn't a guide for UD before, so why not !

The better places to put essentia occur at levels
3 7 and 10, and the not betters happen at 1 and 9.
The "good" ~progression is not that far off the
normal progression of new shaping locations.

So yeah, it's maybe a tier down on Incarnate or Totemist.
Totally playable in Tier 4 or 5 campaigns.
Your codpiece is a mimic.

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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 09:14:35 PM »
If you were worried about skill access, the "Able Learner" feat is the go-to solution.  You can combine this with things like Factotum or Skill Prodigy for more skill monkey ability.

It's pretty easy to be a skill monkey.

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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2013, 01:59:26 PM »
(tangent) ... FrankT is doing a hangover review right now of MOI.

Interesting point that MOI , TOB and TOM were all proto-4e trial fliers.
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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2013, 02:07:11 PM »
(tangent) ... FrankT is doing a hangover review right now of MOI.

Interesting point that MOI , TOB and TOM were all proto-4e trial fliers.


link?
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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 02:07:40 PM »
(grumble all my links have !@#$ attached wtf is wrong with the interwebs)

Here ---> http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=54877

Not quite finished atm, and our old pal Ubernoob is there too.

« Last Edit: December 22, 2013, 02:09:24 PM by awaken_D_M_golem »
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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2014, 05:50:47 AM »
Added a build, the able learner feat, factotum and human paragon.

@awaken_D_M_golem: exactly what I was thinking, there wasn't one, so why not make one. It is indeed playable in many campaings. Thanks for the link to the review btw, it's a good read, especially interesting the backgrounds on how the design proces went in those years (orcus etc.)

@DavidWL: thanks for the suggestions!

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Re: Umbral Disciple handbook - discussion thread
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 03:54:09 AM »
Not really optimal, but kind of a funny build for Umbral Disciple: (possibly Azurin) Generic Expert (UA) 1/ Thief of Life (FoE) 10/ Umbral Disciple 9
« Last Edit: January 08, 2014, 04:16:33 AM by gorfnab »