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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #160 on: April 27, 2014, 10:48:25 PM »
Pathfinder Paladin Oath against [Thing] archetypes: Lists a "Change" to the "Code of Conduct" feature... but don't list the standard oath as part of their code. Bam, you have a paladin that can backstab and adventure with evildoers.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #161 on: April 27, 2014, 11:03:03 PM »
Pathfinder Paladin Oath against [Thing] archetypes: Lists a "Change" to the "Code of Conduct" feature... but don't list the standard oath as part of their code. Bam, you have a paladin that can backstab and adventure with evildoers.

... I believe that defeats the point of playing a Paladin.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2014, 11:37:02 PM »
Pathfinder Paladin Oath against [Thing] archetypes: Lists a "Change" to the "Code of Conduct" feature... but don't list the standard oath as part of their code. Bam, you have a paladin that can backstab and adventure with evildoers.

... I believe that defeats the point of playing a Paladin.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #163 on: April 30, 2014, 04:29:15 AM »
Dark Sun's Faces of the North has a couple things...

Unarmed Reflexes fighter feat
when unarmed and unencumbered, grants extra AoOs/rnd equal to your Wis mod.

it mentions Combat Reflexes, but doesn't say they don't stack.

Strangler feat
while grappling, your damage increases by 1 step, as if your size increased by 2 steps.  :twitch
the example is Medium size increases from 1d3 to 1d6, which supports a 2 step increase.

Wristbow weapon
its basically a Tiny hand crossbow that is strapped to your wrist and can be fired when concealed under your sleeve.
can you also wield a hand crossbow in that hand?

Plains Pants item
4gp, apply for a +1 untyped bonus to Hide for 12 hrs

its got 1 drug that is mehh

you can wear up to 2 Shrunken Heads as an earring slot, replacing your head slot

there are several new templates...

Stampede is like an animal mob, but you could actually apply this template to a mob templates creature, gaining more members

1 stampede = 6 gargantuans, 12 huges, 24 larges, or 48 mediums
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cool thing about the several dozen Dark Sun templates? They list a LA for all of them (which could be n/a)
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #164 on: May 02, 2014, 11:44:04 PM »
Races of Ansalon; Hylar Dwarf Clan Fighter Substitution Level, (Fighter 4)

Trades a fighter bonus feat for Con in place of Wis for Will Saving Throws and Wis based skill checks.

Autohypnosis; you are so tough, you can remember stuff better!
Heal; You are so tough, you can heal other people better!
Listen; You are so tough you can hear better!
Lucid Dreaming; You are so tough you can fall asleep!
Profession; You are so tough you can earn more money than anyone else!
Sense Motive; You are so tough you can tell when people are being sneaky!
Spot; You are so tough you can see better!
Survival; You are so tough you can tell where north is, and follow tracks better!

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #165 on: May 03, 2014, 12:26:15 AM »
Races of Ansalon; Hylar Dwarf Clan Fighter Substitution Level, (Fighter 4)

Trades a fighter bonus feat for Con in place of Wis for Will Saving Throws and Wis based skill checks.

Autohypnosis; you are so tough, you can remember stuff better!
Heal; You are so tough, you can heal other people better!
Listen; You are so tough you can hear better!
Lucid Dreaming; You are so tough you can fall asleep!
Profession; You are so tough you can earn more money than anyone else!
Sense Motive; You are so tough you can tell when people are being sneaky!
Spot; You are so tough you can see better!
Survival; You are so tough you can tell where north is, and follow tracks better!
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #166 on: May 04, 2014, 06:31:49 PM »
I'm reminded of this thread here.

But anyway...

Primal Rager from Dragon 295 has a 1st level Class feature called Strength of the Beast; you may shorten your Rage by a number of rounds equal to your Barbarian plus your Primal Rager levels to get a +1 to Str and Con... for each round sacrificed. The extra con doesn't lengthen the Rage, though...

Still, it requires BAB +8, so you can get an additional +9 to Str and Con while raging right away!

And they said those feats that increase the duration of Rage were useless!

(I'm pretty sure you can use effective class level shenanigans to boost that cap to absurd degrees.)
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #167 on: May 04, 2014, 09:21:57 PM »
Is it an action to change the rage bonus?
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #168 on: May 04, 2014, 10:37:38 PM »
You choose to do so when you enter Rage, and can't change it afterwards.

So you can't, say, Rage normally for the first two rounds, then get a +2 Str and Con for the next round by burning 2 rounds.

No, you burn two rounds and get +2 Str and Con for the entire rage.

Let me note that a Barbarian 19/Primal Rager with Con 30 as a base has a rage that lasts 18 rounds (if you have Ettercap Berserker and Reckless Rage). You can sacrifice up to 20 rounds of Rage.

Grab an Extend Rage somewhere in there, and you too can rage for 3 rounds for a +28 Str and +30 Con! Perfect for one side of a Gestalt.  :D
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #169 on: May 06, 2014, 03:36:36 AM »
The deadly precision alternative class feature (Races of Ansalon, p135) for ranger gives you wisdom to damage on ranged attacks (replacing manyshot).  Naturally, you'd pair this with zen archery. 

The hidden requirement is you have to be a goblinoid.  The really hidden requirement is you have to have the alertness feat. 

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #170 on: May 06, 2014, 01:32:21 PM »
A ranger with Urban Companion - does that grant Alertness like a Familiar?

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2014, 05:24:40 PM »
Found in "Way of the Thief" from the Rokugan setting; Facing the Abyss is a Ronin Samurai only feat,  which gives you Cha/day free action Intimidates, which last a number of rounds equal to your Character level. It is also fluffed as being part of the Red Dawn pirate group, which places a limit on RP'ing as part of a party, but

Bear in mind it is 3.0, however, where there was no Swift Action, but there's none of the Quicken Spell verbiage however. Be prepared for instant DM to say "no free Panic/Cowering".

From the same book -

"Soul of Green Walls", when making a Charisma check to determine an NPC's initial attitude toward you, you may alter the result by one category. Now - this isn't something that's strictly RAW, as there's no initial attitude Charisma check - it's usually defined as Neutral, and if you have ranks in Diplomacy, it's usually better to attempt the diplomacy check. However, if you're capable of making a DC30 Charisma check - ouch - you can make them Fanatical. Alternatively, just ask the DM to have it apply to Diplomacy, as the Charisma to determine Initial attitude I think is a 3.0ism - in such a case, it's at it's worse, a DC50 check to send someone from Hostile to Fanatical - or even Hostile to Indifferent is DC20, something most dedicated diplomancers should be able to achieve right off the bat with a 75% success rate.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2014, 08:47:40 PM »
A ranger with Urban Companion - does that grant Alertness like a Familiar?

Yes.

Quote from:  Urban Class Features web enhancement
The character gains the companionship of a smaller but far more intelligent creature than she otherwise would have. This is identical to the sorcerer's ability to summon a familiar (PH 52), including all benefits granted and gained by the familiar, except as noted below.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2014, 10:38:38 PM »
Piecemeal armor is pretty cool idea (Athasian Emporium), you get bonuses based on the core.arm and the chunk used [torso, arm(s), and leg(s)]

from the same book, Animal Companion Pouch (throat, 13k) increases your animal companions abilities by 4 levels (can go epic, except for Special Abilities)
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #174 on: May 08, 2014, 11:37:21 AM »
Piecemeal armor is pretty cool idea (Athasian Emporium), you get bonuses based on the core.arm and the chunk used [torso, arm(s), and leg(s)]

from the same book, Animal Companion Pouch (throat, 13k) increases your animal companions abilities by 4 levels (can go epic, except for Special Abilities)
Pathfinder also has Piecemeal Armor on the PFSRD, if that's easier to access. Don't know how different they are, though.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #175 on: May 15, 2014, 12:39:31 PM »
bestiary of Krynn's Ambient Tempest's reverse metamagic Spellshaping ability

can it be used in conjunction w making items? It appears that it still may count as.applying the metamagic feat.

could you thus apply this to access a previously 4th level spell in a 3rd level Drow Insignia?
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #176 on: May 15, 2014, 01:25:46 PM »
Academy Sorcerer from the Dragonlance - Age of Mortals book is actually pretty sweet for a Mailman - easy entry, and you get some sweet benefits. Three Metamagic feats, extra caster levels to various types of spells (and skill bonuses), some other assorted bonuses, and all without losing a single caster level!

Edit: Some of these feats are pretty sick too. Education - all Knowledge skills are in-class. Heroic surge - Once/day/four character levels, get an extra move or standard action as a free action. Only usable once per round, but that's kind of insane.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #177 on: May 15, 2014, 02:11:25 PM »
Piecemeal armor is pretty cool idea (Athasian Emporium), you get bonuses based on the core.arm and the chunk used [torso, arm(s), and leg(s)]

from the same book, Animal Companion Pouch (throat, 13k) increases your animal companions abilities by 4 levels (can go epic, except for Special Abilities)
Pathfinder also has Piecemeal Armor on the PFSRD, if that's easier to access. Don't know how different they are, though.
I saw this piecemeal stuff mentioned in the Eastern armors in the pfsrd, but no details on how to do it/what stacked. Where can I find this?
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #178 on: May 15, 2014, 04:31:17 PM »
Rokugan Campaign Setting;

Courtier Class - this is one of the most customizable classes in the setting, with variants in each major clan. As you can imagine, it's an amazing party face. It is completely mundane, without even a bard's UMD. In Rokugan, it works quite well.

But, let's just look at the chassis -

d6 HD - fairly decent, considering it's a non-combat class. Of course, you don't actually want it in combat, but at least it's not a d4.
Skills; 8+Int, with including the big 4; Bluff, Diplomacy, Intimidate and Sense Motive as well as knowledges (although 3.5, so only History, Local, and Nobility/Royalty of use here). Plus others of reasonable useage.

+4 competence to all Charisma-based Social Interactions, Skill Focus feats provide a +4 bonus (rather than +2) for mental based skills, bonus wealth equal to his Charisma Modifier*50 each level, Iron Will bonus feat, can use Gather Information in a way similar to the Swashbuckler's dead levels abilities, gets 8 new class skills of choice for free over his career, Leadership bonus feat (+3 to score if already taken - but must be a Samurai or Fighter), but you keep the followers, Sense Motive take 20 as a swift action.

At 18th level, if the Courtier doesn't make himself offensive (holding a weapon, no harmful intent etc), any opponent trying to harm him must make a DC10+half Courtier level+Cha mod or be unable to attack him.

In addition to that, gains 6 Courtier abilities chosen from the following;
- Better part of valour; full defence gains Int to AC (dodge bonus)
- Eyes see the heart; When lying, must take DC10+Cha mod Will Save or the courtier knows that the liar is lying
- Eyes betray the heart; all special abilities of the courtier increase in DC by 2. Can be taken twice.
- Taunt and Rally; affect allies with bless, and enemies doom, 50ft radius, SLA's as if cast by a Sorcerer of the Courtiers class level (opens up loads of Qualifying opportunities).
- Voice; 1/day gain Courtier level as a circumstance bonus to a Diplomacy or Bluff check (social only).
- Weakness is my strength; when making opposed mental checks, the opponent must use the lowest mental score they have.
- Whisper from the soul; 1/day each time its chosen, affects target with "emotion" spell - suggest replacing with the relevant 3.5 spells as desired
- Your life is mine; 1/day (per cha mod), Charm Person SLA against weaker targets.  AS AN EX ABILITY.

In addition, each of the clans have their own.

Crab Clan - Track down items bought and sold or become a better trader to generate money, untyped bonuses to two class skills, or move action intimidates (opposed versus Sense Motive) granting bonus to attack rolls, Cha-skills, and +1 Courtier abilities DC for 1 hour.
Crane Clan - +2 Cha and +1 Diplomacy, Temporary Enhancement bonuses for hours/level of courtier, and can select any one courtier ability of another clan.
Dragon Clan - Can study a specific area for 2 minutes to gain a square 10ft wide/level to gain +10 untyped to Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Spot, and Sense Motive, can maintain 1 every 4 levels of Courtier, gain a +4 morale bonus on Will Saves and opposed mental skill checks against a specific target every time you succeed on such a save/opposed mental checks (up to your courtier level), and a similar ability as the crab clan intimidate
Lion Clan - Temporary honor bonus to ally, temporary honor malus to opponent, bonus to Gossip checks to discover targets history
Mantis Clan - Gather Info check to work like a Knowledge check regarding specific Ronin/bandit etc, DC15, rather than 20 Intimidate checks, 30ft range on Aid Another and can spend Void points when doing so.
Phoenix - +3 bonus when spending a Void point on Will Saves or Mental ability based roll (except Iaijutsu Focus). Stacks with all other void bonuses, SR10+Courtier level vs Mind Affecting affects, 10 free skill points.
Scorpion - Sense Motive check opposed by targets most appropriate skillcheck (Bluff, Intimidate, Diplo) to learn the specific mechanics about the target, spend time with a target to gain a +4 bonus against them with regards to social and scouting skills, or cause Wisdom damage to target Cha mod+3 a day.
Unicorn - Cha mod to Initiative and always take 10 on sport and listen, roll twice and choose better result against Will saves (or enchant or illusion), and immunity to Mental stat damage.

It's a brilliant little class.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #179 on: May 16, 2014, 02:45:54 AM »
Piecemeal armor is pretty cool idea (Athasian Emporium), you get bonuses based on the core.arm and the chunk used [torso, arm(s), and leg(s)]

from the same book, Animal Companion Pouch (throat, 13k) increases your animal companions abilities by 4 levels (can go epic, except for Special Abilities)
Pathfinder also has Piecemeal Armor on the PFSRD, if that's easier to access. Don't know how different they are, though.
I saw this piecemeal stuff mentioned in the Eastern armors in the pfsrd, but no details on how to do it/what stacked. Where can I find this?

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