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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #180 on: May 16, 2014, 11:16:45 PM »
I was talkign about the D20PFSRD one, for gamemastery. The link Zook posted above.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #181 on: May 17, 2014, 12:03:11 AM »
Piecemeal armor is pretty cool idea (Athasian Emporium), you get bonuses based on the core.arm and the chunk used [torso, arm(s), and leg(s)]

from the same book, Animal Companion Pouch (throat, 13k) increases your animal companions abilities by 4 levels (can go epic, except for Special Abilities)
Pathfinder also has Piecemeal Armor on the PFSRD, if that's easier to access. Don't know how different they are, though.
I saw this piecemeal stuff mentioned in the Eastern armors in the pfsrd, but no details on how to do it/what stacked. Where can I find this?

this?

or this?

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So a pathfinder suit of armor made up of:
a MW mithril breastplate (+6 AC, +5 max Dex, 4350 gp)
MW horn lamellar arms (+1 AC, max dex +5, 175 gp)
MW studded leather legs (+1 AC, max dex +5, 155 gp)

Would have a total AC bonus of +8, max Dex of +5, and ACP of -1. It would technically be medium armor, but the movement rate is still 30'. If you instead used mithril (steel) lamellar arms, it would be light armor and ACP would be 0, but it would cost a bit more.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #182 on: May 19, 2014, 11:46:02 PM »
Implore (Dragon #336 pg82)
It's Planar Binding but limited to 22HD, it also explicitly notes any Spells or Effects that affect Planar Binding also work on this Spell. Add to this Infernal Bargainer (FR:RoF) which increases the HD cap of Planar Binding by +2.

You can now bind two new Elder Evils.
Father Llymic (24HD) and just because he appears his Sign triggers and the world's average temperature drops by 16 degrees and a further -1 per day. Which is great for cold-casters. Not to mention you can now control the addition of the Brood Template which can be used to enhance your non-undead minions. You can also attempt to bind Sertrous (23HD), which makes you play the game in hard mode with +20% chance to for Random Encounters with a +2 EL modifierBut lock your self in a tower and since Sertrous is utterly immune to all forms of Divine Magic you can send him to kill any Cleric/Druid that's tried to say they are better than a Wizard.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #183 on: May 20, 2014, 12:26:07 AM »
A gold mine yet untapped: Races of Ansalon, a Dragonlance supplement with the Wizards of the Coast Official Licensed Product seal. It has a load of alternative class features to use.

For example,
City Sense (for human barbarians): replaces Trap Sense for barbarians and gives you an equivalent bonus on spot checks, reflex saves, and initiative checks in urban environments.
Will of the Mountain (for dwarf fighters): replaces the fighter bonus feat at 4th level. Use Constitution instead of Wisdom for Will saves and all wisdom-based skill checks.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #184 on: May 20, 2014, 12:44:17 AM »
Has been partially tapped. Check out the ACF aquaua spell focus? "(afb)

Basically increases your spellcasting by one level compensating for your racial +1 LA....
did someone say Changeling? A powerful early entry loophole
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #185 on: May 20, 2014, 12:48:54 AM »
I hadn't thought of using changeling to qualify for the more obscure races' ACFs. This opens up so many possibilities...
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #186 on: May 20, 2014, 03:10:18 AM »
That sort of thing could get really ugly
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #187 on: May 21, 2014, 07:46:29 AM »
Like, a mongelman and an illthid had a baby kind of ugly.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #188 on: May 21, 2014, 06:11:30 PM »
Sounds like my brother's newborn. Thing's hideous.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #189 on: May 21, 2014, 06:20:00 PM »
Cute lil' brain eaters, eh?
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Implore (Dragon #336 pg82)
It's Planar Binding but limited to 22HD, it also explicitly notes any Spells or Effects that affect Planar Binding also work on this Spell. Add to this Infernal Bargainer (FR:RoF) which increases the HD cap of Planar Binding by +2.

You can now bind two new Elder Evils.
Father Llymic (24HD) and just because he appears his Sign triggers and the world's average temperature drops by 16 degrees and a further -1 per day. Which is great for cold-casters. Not to mention you can now control the addition of the Brood Template which can be used to enhance your non-undead minions. You can also attempt to bind Sertrous (23HD), which makes you play the game in hard mode with +20% chance to for Random Encounters with a +2 EL modifierBut lock your self in a tower and since Sertrous is utterly immune to all forms of Divine Magic you can send him to kill any Cleric/Druid that's tried to say they are better than a Wizard.

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" ... the world's average temperature drops by 16 degrees and a further -1 per day ... "

hmm, I wonder what sort of legit Temperature numbers got published over the years ??

d20SRD has Weather hot + heat wave = 120o ; and Endure Elements says 140o.

realmshelps has: The Wastes
111° F to 140° F   Severe heat
141° F to 180° F   Extreme heat
181° F to 210° F   Unearthly heat
211° F or higher   Burning heat
paper catches fire at 451° F
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #190 on: May 23, 2014, 11:31:57 PM »
In Pathfinder (PF), a 25k gp item lets you nearly-spontaneously cast your wizard transmutation spells. If you're working with a bonded object, 20k gp lets you do it with any school.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #191 on: May 31, 2014, 04:44:57 AM »
Way of the Open Hand...
- Novice Chisaijutsu... allows you to stack the shield bonus from a pair of tessen in total defense (only way to stack 'shield' bonuses)
- Advanced Drunken Mantis... You can ready a free action to grab opponent's weapon and make unarmed strike
- Advanced Himitsuheiki... 1/rnd make a spot check and vrab a nearby improvised weapon
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #192 on: May 31, 2014, 11:54:04 AM »
Way of the Open Hand...
- Novice Chisaijutsu... allows you to stack the shield bonus from a pair of tessen in total defense (only way to stack 'shield' bonuses)
- Advanced Drunken Mantis... You can ready a free action to grab opponent's weapon and make unarmed strike
- Advanced Himitsuheiki... 1/rnd make a spot check and vrab a nearby improvised weapon

There is another way to stack shield bonuses, but it requires the bodyguard fighter from Dragon 310 to give you his shield bonus through the Cover ability.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #193 on: May 31, 2014, 12:23:26 PM »
So 2 ways, but one requires 2 creatures
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #194 on: May 31, 2014, 03:15:28 PM »
Three ways if you count Twin Sword Style from Players Guide to Faerun.  Its a sort of Dodge like feat that gives you +2 Shield bonus to AC vs one target.  And it stacks with a buckler or animated shield.  (Because you need to TWF with specific weapon types.)

Bad feat, but relevant to the conversation.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #195 on: June 02, 2014, 09:18:20 AM »
That feat from one of the ravenloft settings lets you gain +2 ranks in an Int skill, IIRC? It can be used to get into Cosmic Descryer at ECL20 to finish off a Planar Binding build for 28HD Implore's at ECL20.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #196 on: June 02, 2014, 10:01:51 AM »
In Pathfinder (PF), a 25k gp item lets you nearly-spontaneously cast your wizard transmutation spells. If you're working with a bonded object, 20k gp lets you do it with any school.
Wow... just WTF... Any reason you can't use both of these?  :lmao Edit: One is for transmuters only, and the other for universalists only.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #197 on: June 02, 2014, 01:04:55 PM »
In Pathfinder (PF), a 25k gp item lets you nearly-spontaneously cast your wizard transmutation spells. If you're working with a bonded object, 20k gp lets you do it with any school.
Wow... just WTF... Any reason you can't use both of these?  :lmao Edit: One is for transmuters only, and the other for universalists only.

That's what UMD is for.

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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #198 on: June 02, 2014, 06:23:45 PM »
There are more versions for other schools. And I'm not sure you can UMD around the requirement of using the item as your bonded object, any more than UMDing a wand of familiar pocket would let you store fellow party members.
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Re: Fun Finds the 2nd Party Edition
« Reply #199 on: June 03, 2014, 03:27:10 PM »
Of the three linked, only the one for Universalists requires it to be a bonded item.  Unless its a stealth requirement not mentioned in the individual entries.