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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #280 on: February 22, 2013, 08:02:15 PM »
Well went ahead and posted that one as you had sugested.

Other plant creatures done so far that I remember include the Wood Woad and the Fungal Creature.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #281 on: February 23, 2013, 11:56:07 AM »
Now the problem of "it's an Ironthorn, quick everyone walk briskly" is dealt with.
My Druid may have my Sandstorm, but he won't see this tree coming in the forest he'll try walking briskly pass.

Next from me is that PrC then I'll give those golems a go. Hope they'll get as little editing as the Ironthorn had. :D

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #282 on: February 24, 2013, 11:12:32 PM »
After a quick search, the only plant type class not yet mentioned is the Myconid.
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #283 on: February 26, 2013, 09:59:42 AM »
It cool with you if I compile a list of which classes fit into specific types and subtypes?
I'm thinking this would make it a little easier for people who are looking for a certain type of creatue, without havin to know the actual names. And unlike half-golem materials, it's unlikely to give me a headache on the third entry. I'll get started on that one again someday, I swear. :smirk

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #284 on: February 26, 2013, 10:01:59 AM »
It cool with you if I compile a list of which classes fit into specific types and subtypes?
I'm thinking this would make it a little easier for people who are looking for a certain type of creatue, without havin to know the actual names. And unlike half-golem materials, it's unlikely to give me a headache on the third entry. I'll get started on that one again someday, I swear. :smirk
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #285 on: February 26, 2013, 12:06:53 PM »
It cool with you if I compile a list of which classes fit into specific types and subtypes?
I'm thinking this would make it a little easier for people who are looking for a certain type of creatue, without havin to know the actual names. And unlike half-golem materials, it's unlikely to give me a headache on the third entry. I'll get started on that one again someday, I swear. :smirk
Have you seen FireInTheSky's sortable tables?

I've seen those and they're very useful for finding what an individual class is capable of, didn't really notice types and subtypes though. I fumbled my search check there.
Half-golem table is still on my to do list. :rolleyes

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #286 on: February 26, 2013, 12:31:09 PM »
Yeah, I'll get around to finishing those at some point...

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #287 on: February 26, 2013, 12:54:09 PM »
Yeah, I'll get around to finishing those at some point...

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #288 on: March 03, 2013, 01:18:44 PM »
Okay I've thrown out a very patchy Dustform Creature and have attempted to utilize the original's weakness as it's unique ability, if anyones wants a look at it in it's current state, I can pm it, but wear goggles they'll protect your eyes. I probably should stick to the monsters with a mid level CR.

I think I'm just gonna go prioritize the books I get according to this project* Osle, the only things I can currently try are my own requests and the Para-Elementals. :lol
I have a more complete picture for a few items on the waiting list, so they'll be more like the Ironthorn in terms of quality.


*Still getting Libris Mortis and the Fiend Folio first though.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #289 on: March 11, 2013, 10:37:48 PM »
What is a good level for fear immunity piercing?
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #290 on: March 12, 2013, 03:32:04 PM »
I prefer around 13, when mindblank becomes available.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #291 on: March 15, 2013, 11:29:00 AM »
I've just been through the completed monsters list and still can't find a single Elder Evil. Does Zargon still need transferring from rule of cool? I'll see if I can get a link.

Edit: No idea how to directly link the post, I'm sure you've still got it stored somewhere Osle, but I'm bringing it here for you so you don't need to look for it anyway.
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #292 on: March 15, 2013, 11:51:52 AM »
Zargon is inside the Infernal spoiler, because of all the devils connections it has.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #293 on: March 17, 2013, 08:11:00 PM »
I'd like to try my hand at one of these. . . Any suggestions for where to start? Is it easier to do low or high CR creatures do you think?

I've got a few ideas of stuff. . .
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #294 on: March 17, 2013, 10:06:49 PM »
I started with a couple monsters that were fairly low CR (3 and 5) and I found that a good way to ease into the creation process. Other people have taken the opposite route and jumped in with something formiddable and that's worked for them.

Large or small class, though, I would definitely advise starting with something that has a reasonable number of abilities of its own.  Monster classes where you have to take something that's basically just a pile of numbers and turn it into an interesting and balanced level progression are considerably harder, esp at first, than ones with enough abilities that you're more filling in gaps than inventing things from the ground up.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #295 on: March 18, 2013, 05:56:29 PM »
I'd like to try my hand at one of these. . . Any suggestions for where to start? Is it easier to do low or high CR creatures do you think?

I've got a few ideas of stuff. . .

I can't quite remember what my first monster class was, though I think it was the Tyrannosaurus Rex which was a bit higher CR than I should have tackled at that point. Oslecamo helped me flesh it out quite a bit though and I think it works nicely. The main thing though, as was said, is the abilities. The monsters are not supposed to be linear, and coming up with flavourful abilities that will also prove useful, and still rotate around the core monster's abilities/fluff can be a difficult task. Good luck!
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #296 on: March 18, 2013, 08:44:34 PM »
Started with The Titan... But it may be because the majority of my homebrew work has been base classes.

I found it nice to go through and pick out abilities from other classes that worked for what I had in mind. The majority of the Titan is from various giants, and the angel honestly.
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #297 on: March 19, 2013, 09:42:26 AM »
My first two attempts were finished and posted by Oslecamo, the amount (minimal) of editing they received is encouraging me to step in and build a whole class. Though my second attempt was mostly just a single idea, which is why it was so hard for me to expand on.

If you have a picture for the entire class, then it's going to be really easy to build most of it, otherwise you're going to have a hard time making something interesting.
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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #298 on: March 19, 2013, 03:43:43 PM »
In the index some monsters are listed as Awakened Whatever and some are Whatever, Awakened.

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Re: General Discussion and Sugestions
« Reply #299 on: March 20, 2013, 04:48:56 AM »
And some (like the Iron Golem) don't have "Awakened" in their index entry at all.

Given that there's no functional difference between the monster class of an awakened creature and one of a creature with 3+ original Int, I would move that "awkened" be removed from the index entries entirely and be noted in the monster's post if it needs to be noted anywhere.