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Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« on: January 04, 2014, 03:09:48 AM »
Alright, I'm trying to build a theme build; an elemental summoner who uses beefed-up elementals for combat purposes.

So far, the feats I'm looking at are:

1. Augment Summoning (duh. +4 to Str and Con is beautiful.)
2. Augment Elemental (again, duh. +2 atk and damage, plus 2*HD THP, for all summoned elementals? Excellent.)
3. Beckon the Frozen + Icy Calling (basically, all non-fire elementals that I call will have the cold subtype and get +1d6 cold damage on all attacks. In Extremely Cold areas, they will also have maximum HP for their HD.)
4. Rashemi Elemental Summoning (the Orglash template is sex on toast; most pertinent bits are the +2 AC and +4 Con (OK, the Cone of Cold 3/day is nice too)).
5. Stalwart Planar Ally (if you summon a creature from a plane you have a touchstone on, they get +4 AC and +4 to Saves.)
6. Summon Elemental (Give me my steady stream of expendable Orglashes!)

Items-wise, I'm looking at Worldmeet Glade; build-wise, I'm starting from Conjuror 3/Master Specialist 4 to get the +CL to HP for all my summons.

I'm kinda stuck on two things:

1. Can I take Touchstones from Sandstorm with the Planar Touchstone feat? Rashemi Elemental Summoning sets the home plane of the elementals to the material plane. Unless, of course, there's a Planar Touchstone on the material plane, in which case I'm on it like fire on wood.
2. What other PrCs and feats are good? I remember that there is a feat that lets you summon creatures with max HP other than Icy Calling, which would cut down on prereqs and would be more generally useful, but I can't remember what said feat was called.
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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2014, 03:53:10 AM »
Ashbound is another geat feat, +3 to atk and double durration for all summons.

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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2014, 04:03:47 AM »
Ashbound only applies to SNA, sadly.
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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2014, 03:13:20 PM »
Malconvoker is the usual summoning PrC, but I don't recall if fiendish legion would apply to elementals.

Paragnostic Apostle gives fast healing (2-5) to your summons, but the flavor mentions something about giving a bunch of your money to the paragnotic assembly.

Cloudy Conjuration is pretty good for a free sickening cloud with your summons.

There is a feat that allows you to cast a buff on your summons as a free action.

Also, Rod of Maximize + summoning lower level dudes can always be fun.

Depending on the power level of your game, a certain interpretation of Invisible Spell metamagic can be nice on a summoner. ;)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 03:22:25 PM by Rebel7284 »

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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 05:33:45 PM »
Imbued Summoning - it's a +1 metamagic that gets you a 3rd level or lower buff on your summons (have to use the slot for the buff too)

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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 06:03:53 PM »
Page 54 of Sandstorm does seem to imply that Touchstones and Planar Touchstones are the same thing.  But it isn't ironclad RAW.
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Those linked with one touchstone can also freely visit other touchstone sites, including planar touchstones (as described in the Planar Handbook).

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Re: Sandstorm Touchstones =/= Planar Touchstones? Summoner help.
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 06:09:07 PM »
Looking at Malconvoker, Deceptive Summons applies to all summons of evil-aligned creatures. It says that Elementals are usually neutral in their entry.

If I ever play this kind of character, I'd see if I could convince my DM into allowing me to summon evil-aligned elementals. Then I'd go ahead and rock an Initiate of Kossuth build.

Because who can say no to +4 Strength, +4 Con, +4 HP per HD, 2*HD THP, +4 to attack, damage, and saves, and +4 AC for all Fire Elementals that you summon? Throw on Worldmeet Glade for another +2 to saves, and you have some seriously buffed Fire Elementals.

Maybe grab Dragonmarked Summoner if there's space; +3 Deflection bonus to AC for all summons is damn nice (2-3 levels in Heir of Siberys isn't that much of a drawback). Paragnostic Apostle sounds good too... Would Fiendish Legions apply to the Summon Elemental reserve feat, I wonder...

Grab Imbued Summoning for Haste, and Superior Summons (that's the max hit-point feat I was thinking of!)... Scary.
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