Bear Warrior size changing

[Brains]

Mistakes were made.

[nijineko]

medium is assumed, belike.

[Brains]

medium is assumed, belike.

Maybe, but nothing in the writing suggests so. What is certain is that (1) Brown Bear form gives +16 str +2 dex +8 con, and (2) Brown Bear Form changes size to large, which triggers another physical stat change.

[RedWarlock]

I don't think it actually implies that you get the size-change stat changes, just the size itself and the creature's stat changes. (don't have it in front of me) Do you have proof for this?

[Ithamar]

Those stat increases are only for when size changes due to additional HD, not just anytime you might change size.

[Brains]

Those stat increases are only for when size changes due to additional HD, not just anytime you might change size.

Shit really? That would change things.

[phaedrusxy]

Those stat increases are only for when size changes due to additional HD, not just anytime you might change size.

Shit really? That would change things.

[Hades]

I don't think it actually implies that you get the size-change stat changes, just the size itself and the creature's stat changes. (don't have it in front of me) Do you have proof for this?

Yes, bear warriors don't get the "+8 str, +4 dex, etc." for the change in size. For example an ogre bear warrior won't take any stat penalties due to his "shrinking" into a medium sized black bear.

[Unbeliever]

Those stat increases are only for when size changes due to additional HD, not just anytime you might change size.

This.

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Now all you have to do is find something that adds RHD and changes your size...