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No Off Hand Attacks
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:26:20 PM »
I'm going mad.  I know there is a feat somewhere that was TWF related and let you keep full strength on your offhand attacks, though I don't know if it's 3.5 or pathfinder.  PRETTY sure it wasn't homebrew.  I'm going nuts, what was that feat?  Does anyone recall such a thing?
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 11:41:23 PM »
Bloodclaw Master gets it, but that's a prestige class, not a feat.

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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 11:47:04 PM »
While googling I found, ironically, this: http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7023.0

Oh dear, looks like there wasn't much to go on there either.  Well.... I'm the DM for this, so I'm gonna look at that feat they said in there and see if I can update it/homebrew it then.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2014, 12:00:51 AM »
And for those looking for a method in the future (and accepting of homebrew) it is done.  Please enjoy.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2014, 12:36:56 AM »
And for those looking for a method in the future (and accepting of homebrew) it is done.  Please enjoy.
May want to move the "half strength" parenthetical to a "Normal: You apply half your blah words thing", I feel like that's more common.

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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 12:56:35 AM »
And for those looking for a method in the future (and accepting of homebrew) it is done.  Please enjoy.
May want to move the "half strength" parenthetical to a "Normal: You apply half your blah words thing", I feel like that's more common.
Fair nuff.  Done.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2014, 01:01:55 AM »
And for those looking for a method in the future (and accepting of homebrew) it is done.  Please enjoy.
May want to move the "half strength" parenthetical to a "Normal: You apply half your blah words thing", I feel like that's more common.
Fair nuff.  Done.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2014, 01:05:20 AM »
And for those looking for a method in the future (and accepting of homebrew) it is done.  Please enjoy.
May want to move the "half strength" parenthetical to a "Normal: You apply half your blah words thing", I feel like that's more common.
Fair nuff.  Done.
ewww now your sig has the wrong number of things

Also oh god why do you have so much homebrew and how is all of it so wonderful
Oh that, ha ha ha, I should update that tally shouldn't I?  :)  I'm glad you like it, I keep meaning to blend some of it with homebrew here (or at the least submit it to the eyes of this board as well) though I'm slow and lazy.  If you happen to register feel free to rate or comment.

Maybe I'll take up a suggestion I was given and start making 3rd party Pazio books or something.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2014, 02:16:33 AM »
There is no D&D feat I know of that allows for full strength to off hand attacks.  The only classes I know of that grant something similar are the aforementioned Bloodclaw Master, and the Revenant Blade.

There is, however, a Pathfinder feat that does it called Double Slice.

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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 02:36:36 AM »
There is no D&D feat I know of that allows for full strength to off hand attacks.  The only classes I know of that grant something similar are the aforementioned Bloodclaw Master, and the Revenant Blade.

There is, however, a Pathfinder feat that does it called Double Slice.

THAT'S THE FEAT!  I knew I wasn't mad.

Though, now I like my version better.  Str 15 seems more logical than Dex 15 because, well, it's your strength bonus which is being augmented.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 02:50:19 AM »
The Dex 15 is probably just a holdover from TWF also having Dex 15 as a prereq.  I think I'd have left Dex off and added at least Str 13 on.  TWF ranger love right there, although in the case of PF it's not needed.  So TWF for a crazy unarmed barbarian or something like from the City Brawler variant in Dragon 349.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2014, 02:56:37 AM »
The Dex 15 is probably just a holdover from TWF also having Dex 15 as a prereq.  I think I'd have left Dex off and added at least Str 13 on.  TWF ranger love right there, although in the case of PF it's not needed.  So TWF for a crazy unarmed barbarian or something like from the City Brawler variant in Dragon 349.
Likely.  I made it Str 15 merely because you need at least a +2 for it to have any benefit in the first place, but now that I think about it, a 14 would do just as well, so a 13 requirement probably isn't out of the question.

*Goes to adjust his feat accordingly*

I was thinking how great this is for Str based TWFers, such as rangers who could completely dump their Dex and still obtain the feats.
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Re: No Off Hand Attacks
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2014, 03:04:19 AM »
It's useful for str-based TWF, although that kind of thing is uncommon for D&D type stuff.  Swap over to some stuff in World of Warcraft and you've got fury warriors using a 2h weapon in each hand and just smacking stuff around like no one's business.  Or two 1h weapons for faster attacks.  Then there's the frost death knights who get some good hits with 2 1h weapons.  All three of those "specs" are based on strength, not agility like the six other TWF specs.