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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2014, 07:44:21 PM »
I think our PM system is busted :(
Sorry dude -- it does actually work.


I feel like a POS.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2014, 10:38:40 PM »
I think that my life is about to get way busier and I don't know if that's a good thing or not...

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »
I think our PM system is busted :(
Sorry dude -- it does actually work.


I feel like a POS.

Don't feel bad, I PM'd several people and no one replied till today.  I think all the pills the doctors keep foisting on me are beginning to get to me.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2014, 02:57:22 AM »
Don't feel bad, I PM'd several people and no one replied till today.  I think all the pills the doctors keep foisting on me are beginning to get to me.
Keep in mind the demographics you're dealing with (i.e., RPGers) -- we've got a pretty extensive track record of being undependable.
I assume that you're simply excited and chomping at the bits to hear back, and getting anxious in light of your time-crunch -- just try to not take it to heart.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2014, 11:20:54 AM »
I sometimes completely miss the fact that I have a PM on here...

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2014, 08:34:04 PM »
Someone has cast Maximized Empowered Boring on me.  It makes me unable to focus, which subsequently makes me more bored.  Uuuoooggghhhhh....
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2014, 09:04:36 PM »
I can send links to perk you up  :D

Some of them won't even be horrifying German porn  :lol

No seriously there won't be any porn  :eh

edt: here we go  http://www.eyezmaze.com/
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2014, 11:46:39 PM »
I can send links to perk you up  :D

Some of them won't even be horrifying German porn  :lol

No seriously there won't be any porn  :eh

edt: here we go  http://www.eyezmaze.com/

This is good, because I actually am working. 

Amusingly things seemed to have a way of working out, I got some Strata done.  Actually I suppose my biggest frustration was over the lack of ideas that were flowing tonight.  I'm supposed to be making a bunch more flavor treasure, little gismos which would be useful in a world like a vacuum or a refrigerator (both already made) but now I can't think of any more.  Surely there is something I am missing.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #108 on: May 27, 2014, 01:31:38 AM »
Sciatica can lick the sweatiest part of my ass.

That is all.  Carry on.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #109 on: May 27, 2014, 09:22:00 AM »
Sciatica can lick the sweatiest part of my ass.

That is all.  Carry on.
Ugh... Stretching and chiropracty/OMM can help that sometimes.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #110 on: May 27, 2014, 10:16:18 AM »
Sciatica can lick the sweatiest part of my ass.

That is all.  Carry on.

oi, sciatica is miserable.

when mine acts up i can typically take a couple ibuprofen to reduce inflammation, then i can prop my feet up in a particular way and pop some lower back part (pelvic, tail bone, who knows). and it goes away immediately.

the worst part is i have only figured out the position for popping it with our chairs at work. cant get it to pop anywhere else... so lots of agony till i go to work again.  :bigeyes
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #111 on: May 27, 2014, 02:25:57 PM »
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I really need to learn how to sit back and just play a game instead of going OCD on it and minmaxing.  Case in point, my cousin and I just started a game of correspondence chess online and I'm agonizing over it, even though there is nothing at stake.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #112 on: May 27, 2014, 02:32:12 PM »
Change the focus of what you're minmaxing for - maybe the goal is to try the absolute craziest strategy, or to see how many times the opponent gives you wild looks. Or just play games where minmaxing isn't possible, either because you were handed a character or something similar.

It's not an easy change, and there's been multiple times I've had to walk away from games because I wasn't enjoying them, I was grinding them - getting a little better every day because if I didn't, it got to me. So I had to stop gaming competitively at all, in the end, and restrict myself to co-op games with friends. And even then that doesn't always work, but at least if I lose, it's to a computer, and not a human.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #113 on: May 27, 2014, 05:12:00 PM »
There is no game where you can't minmax... You can always try to do better at stuff.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #114 on: May 27, 2014, 05:14:25 PM »
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #115 on: May 27, 2014, 05:58:03 PM »
Candyland.

I stand corrected.

"The winning player is predetermined by the shuffle of the cards."

But... even then... you can become extremely good with sleight of hand and handpick the winner... Isn't that minmaxing to some degree...? Lol

(I'm only joking. My post was obviously an exaggeration, but really, in most games, there's always something you can do to do better at it. Tic Tac Toe is also a game where you can't really min-max, since if two players both know the basics of the game, both will never win, only a draw is possible, with only extreme exhaustion or lack of attention being responsible for a loss.)
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #116 on: May 27, 2014, 06:12:35 PM »
Candyland.

I stand corrected.

"The winning player is predetermined by the shuffle of the cards."

But... even then... you can become extremely good with sleight of hand and handpick the winner... Isn't that minmaxing to some degree...? Lol

(I'm only joking. My post was obviously an exaggeration, but really, in most games, there's always something you can do to do better at it. Tic Tac Toe is also a game where you can't really min-max, since if two players both know the basics of the game, both will never win, only a draw is possible, with only extreme exhaustion or lack of attention being responsible for a loss.)
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #117 on: May 27, 2014, 07:09:43 PM »
Sciatica can lick the sweatiest part of my ass.

That is all.  Carry on.
Ugh... Stretching and chiropracty/OMM can help that sometimes.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #118 on: May 27, 2014, 07:10:58 PM »

There is no game where you can't minmax... You can always try to do better at stuff.


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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #119 on: May 27, 2014, 07:50:41 PM »
Candyland.

I stand corrected.

"The winning player is predetermined by the shuffle of the cards."

But... even then... you can become extremely good with sleight of hand and handpick the winner... Isn't that minmaxing to some degree...? Lol

(I'm only joking. My post was obviously an exaggeration, but really, in most games, there's always something you can do to do better at it. Tic Tac Toe is also a game where you can't really min-max, since if two players both know the basics of the game, both will never win, only a draw is possible, with only extreme exhaustion or lack of attention being responsible for a loss.)
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TL;DR --> The rules of Tic Tac Toe, combined with the very limited number of 7 possible winning configurations for either X or O, make it rather simple to "perfect" the game and thus i don't consider min-maxing exists with tic tac toe, since it can basically be resumed as a bunch of do's and don'ts that are extremely easy to remember and come from very basic logical thinking. Comparisons with Checkers or Chess are impossible because the level of complexity of those games make it so that the skill one has of observing all of the movement in the board and determining the optimal move while considering future moves by other players is so incredibly bigger that it just isn't possible for a human to "perfect" checker or chess(By which i mean knowing every possible game, loss, draw, or win, and for both sides and thus being able to always make the optimal choice and be unbeatable), although a computer has already "perfected" checkers and cannot be beaten, but the same is unlikely to happen with Chess anytime soon.
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