Help build a Character that's Really Hard to Kill

[eleazzaar]

Hexblade lawful neutral
pc received the calling or had some experience that made him re think his life...some sorta moral epiphany. This is no stretch at all.

I'm not saying it is unreasonable, but that it is not the sort of thing my DM allows.  Roleplaying has to happen at the table, including the (Special) requirements for PrCs.

But i can work around it.  Chaotic Neutral Hex 3 > FS 3.  I tell the DM i intend to shift him to Chaotic Good over the sessions, and once accomplished i take some levels of Paladin of Freedom.  Pal of Freedom used here because i prefer the core.

There are several alternate paladins...

I know.  But DrMag stuff isn't used, and i don't want to play an evil character.

[Emanresu]

I'm not saying it is unreasonable, but that it is not the sort of thing my DM allows.  Roleplaying has to happen at the table, including the (Special) requirements for PrCs.

if it wont work, OK, but these are 2 base classes, neither is prestige classes, so if you cant go from lawful neutral to lawful good?? that seems a little strict, but OK, its a no-go.

you said you didnt want a huge spell list and wanted to be tough, and you had other restrictions, does below work?

Favored Soul 4
fighter 1
prestigious Paladin 1
then continue in PP
fav so has all good saves and 1 more level of PP gets you cha to all saves, and every other level you go up in fav soul casting
take power of personality feat for cha to saves and your less mad
get a valorous weapon enhancement on your main wep of choice

[Jackinthegreen]

The feat is not power of personality, it's Force of Personality and it's only Cha to saves instead of Wis on mind-affecting spells and abilities.

Unnatural Will is also along those lines.

The Valorous enhancement is from the Unapproachable East, so it may not fly.

[eleazzaar]

Iyou said you didnt want a huge spell list and wanted to be tough, and you had other restrictions, does below work?

Favored Soul 4
fighter 1
prestigious Paladin 1
then continue in PP
fav so has all good saves and 1 more level of PP gets you cha to all saves, and every other level you go up in fav soul casting
take power of personality feat for cha to saves and your less mad
get a valorous weapon enhancement on your main wep of choice

Prestige Paladin requires turn undead and the mounted combat feat.  If it was easier to get into it might be great-- but i don't have a problem with having access to a large number of spells.  What i dislike is choosing a subset of your spells to cast and choosing the number of times you can cast them, in the middle of the session with the real risk of making everyone wait on you.  There's nothing about that experience i enjoy especially as a cleric or druid with a absurdly large number of possible spells.


EDIT: Looks like you can get Mettle with a 1 lvl did into Pious Templar.  The only significant cost is the True Believer feat, when added to a Fav Soul Chassis.

[Endarire]

What about full-on Human Druid?

[eleazzaar]

What about full-on Human Druid?

The GM has issues with wild shaping (as per original post).


So the two really practical options i see are:

Favored Soul chassis with some hex blade and/or paladin dips (or Pious Templar instead of Hexblade)

Psion > Slayer starting with two or three levels of a full BAB class depending on race.

Multi-class penalties are in play, so for the Psion, i either need a favored class: "Any" or "Psion", or a Full BAB favored class, or I could go Ranger 1 > Fighter 2 > Psion 2 > Slayer ... without stupid multi class issues-- but then i'm loosing 4 manifested levels.

[phaedrusxy]

What about full-on Human Druid?

The GM has issues with wild shaping (as per original post).


So the two really practical options i see are:

Favored Soul chassis with some hex blade and/or paladin dips (or Pious Templar instead of Hexblade)

Psion > Slayer starting with two or three levels of a full BAB class depending on race.

Multi-class penalties are in play, so for the Psion, i either need a favored class: "Any" or "Psion", or a Full BAB favored class, or I could go Ranger 1 > Fighter 2 > Psion 2 > Slayer ... without stupid multi class issues-- but then i'm loosing 4 manifested levels.

Good god don't take more than one level of anything outside Psion and Slayer... Just play something with favored class ranger, or any. Elans have favored class psion, and I thought you were considering them anyway, right?

[vaz]

Cheese is variable.

Ask if Spell to Power Erudites are a thing in setting. If they are, you can pick up Arcane Spells as powers, and all Divine Spells can be arcane spells thanks to Wyrm Wizard. Thus, a Psion can pick up Expanded Knowledge to learn any spell.

Admittedly, Ardents do that better, the only difference is generally lower DC's. With Linked Power Synchronicity you can manifest Psychic Reformation and access to Dominant Mantle, you can change your feats on a whim (well, it will still cost 50xp/level to do so - I'm not a believer in the XP-free reading of linked power, as you still manifest the power, just quicker). Combined with friendly progression for multiclassing, you can pick up a few levels of whatever's fun. Get yourself access to some combat friendly classes for the additonal BAB (Ardent is 3/4, so Ardent 16/Full BAB +4 is +16), or some dips.