Author Topic: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]  (Read 204411 times)

Offline Melblen_Cairn

  • Honorary Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 3593
  • TPK's are my business, and business is good.
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #400 on: April 04, 2015, 08:44:34 AM »
Close attacks do not provoke AoOs
Wisdom has two parts; having a lot to say, and not saying it.

Offline VennDygrem

  • Epic Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4587
  • Exceptionally Average
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #401 on: April 04, 2015, 11:52:49 AM »
So you're telling me that the wight doesn't have to do anything, and all the skeletons just rise back up? At such a low level encounter, even a 'boss' type battle (which we're woefully unprepared for as it is), isn't that still kind of much, especially given the fact that the wight can return 26 (!) hp to himself each round and still have actions to attack everyone? I could see maybe one skeleton minion each round, but all of them?

 :shakefist

Offline Inspectre

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 281
  • I'm new!
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #402 on: April 04, 2015, 01:17:55 PM »
The more alarming thing to me is that should this guy decide to be a tit, he can just insta-kill Thurnan on his next turn - Minor, Move, Standard, Life Suck - Thurnan takes another 9 damage, which will probably put him at or below his Negative Bloodied value = DEAD.  And the wight gets another 39 HP back.   :banghead

Yeah, the wight needs to die - if you guys have any single-target damage abilities, now is the time to use them along with action points.

I still have an action point left, so on my turn I'm going to use Nimble Strike to shift back out of melee with him, shoot him, reload, and then action point to shoot him again.  That's pretty much all I've got left at this point.  Since Galadren will be still in melee on Dunor's turn, he'll have Flanking vs. the Wight at least - does he have any good rogue powers that could trigger Sneak Attack?  Or better, anything that would let him disengage given he's not in a good spot right now.  Maybe Shandien could pull the Bleached Skeleton off Dunor by Marking it?

Offline Melblen_Cairn

  • Honorary Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 3593
  • TPK's are my business, and business is good.
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #403 on: April 04, 2015, 03:13:05 PM »
I am sorry if it seems a bit frustrating. I put in the ritual and increased the skeletons coming back because you have an extra person in the party. No one has really asked about the ritual yet so I have not had anyone roll any knowledge checks about it to see if they can interrupt it. The skeletons rise up on their own due to the connection with the dark energies of the audience chamber and is not a result of anything the Wight is doing here. Though the Wight does have that reanimate power which he is likely going to use on the Boneshard and that will cost him the action to use it.

Yes. Focusing all efforts on the Wight will put him down quick as long as you can kill it before his turn. You are also correct that he could use all three actions and drain 3 life from Thurnan with each one which would likely put him in dire straights.
Wisdom has two parts; having a lot to say, and not saying it.

Offline Melblen_Cairn

  • Honorary Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 3593
  • TPK's are my business, and business is good.
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #404 on: April 04, 2015, 03:14:15 PM »
Ah typed my response before I read Nanshork's post. Good call on the knowledge check  :D.
Wisdom has two parts; having a lot to say, and not saying it.

Offline Inspectre

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 281
  • I'm new!
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #405 on: April 04, 2015, 03:52:16 PM »
Honestly the skeletons coming back I don't mind that much - they're just minions, which tend to need some help to actually be more than a minor nuisance, and I'd rather have minions to deal with than another 1 or 2 standard undead on top of the troll (in more ways than one  :P ) wight and his buddy.  If we can put him down, and keep Dunor from getting killed here (and actually killed since he has no more healing surges.  :bigeyes ) things will start looking much better for us.

Offline VennDygrem

  • Epic Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4587
  • Exceptionally Average
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #406 on: April 04, 2015, 04:19:34 PM »
I don't think I can avoid getting killed, what with no more healing surges. That's the problem one of the problems with 4E; all healing is limited, even with resources like healing potions. Potions of healing should require expending a healing surge to craft, not to drink. >_>
« Last Edit: April 04, 2015, 04:30:58 PM by VennDygrem »

Offline Nanshork

  • Homebrew Reviewer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 13401
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #407 on: April 04, 2015, 07:30:24 PM »
If the knowledge check comes up with anything I can usefully do then I'll be using an action point to do it.

Offline VennDygrem

  • Epic Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4587
  • Exceptionally Average
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #408 on: April 04, 2015, 09:07:00 PM »
Oh, and to answer Inspectre's question, yeah, if I can get CA I can mess up the wight with some well-placed sneak attacking. I can also get sneak attack on a Duelist's Prowess attack if I still have CA, though that's harder to ensure.

Offline Inspectre

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 281
  • I'm new!
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #409 on: April 04, 2015, 10:27:55 PM »
You have CA right now - Galadren is threatening the wight (with his Fists).  Ergo you have flanking, ergo you have combat advantage - that's how Galadren was able to use his sneak attack for the fight, by moving opposite the wight from Dunor.

Offline Nanshork

  • Homebrew Reviewer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 13401
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #410 on: April 05, 2015, 01:33:11 AM »
Is it worth it for me to use an action point to try and disrupt the bad healing?

Offline Inspectre

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 281
  • I'm new!
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #411 on: April 05, 2015, 02:03:12 AM »
We either need to kill the wight this turn or stop it from sucking more HP out of Thurnan.
Depends on how much risk you want to take - Tanthalus could try to disrupt the ritual and fail, causing the action point to be spent for nothing.  Or we could all pile on the wight and do to a couple misses and just bad luck, fail to kill the wight and then without the ritual being cut off he eats Thurnan on his next turn.

Does Tanthalus have any Radiant damage powers that he could smack the wight with for beaucoup damage?

Offline Nanshork

  • Homebrew Reviewer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 13401
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #412 on: April 05, 2015, 11:07:58 AM »
I'm a cleric.  All of my damaging powers do radiant damage.   :P

Offline VennDygrem

  • Epic Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4587
  • Exceptionally Average
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #413 on: April 05, 2015, 11:12:49 AM »
Shadow, your links are off a bit.  ;)

Offline bhu

  • Uncle Kittie
  • DnD Handbook Writer
  • ****
  • Posts: 16307
  • Fnord bitches
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #414 on: April 05, 2015, 05:21:23 PM »
does the push target 4 squares bit from arms of hadar depend on whether or not they take damage?

Offline Melblen_Cairn

  • Honorary Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 3593
  • TPK's are my business, and business is good.
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #415 on: April 05, 2015, 10:21:32 PM »
You did not call out that the power pushes a target 4 squares or where you wanted them moved to if it hit. Yes it does depend on the target being hit before the effect is used. Since it worked on the other skeleton than the one you had hit, where do you want it moved to, though it is irrelevant at the moment since it is presently dead but if it rises again it will determine where it starts its round.
Wisdom has two parts; having a lot to say, and not saying it.

Offline bhu

  • Uncle Kittie
  • DnD Handbook Writer
  • ****
  • Posts: 16307
  • Fnord bitches
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #416 on: April 06, 2015, 02:40:50 AM »
Didnt call it out cause my role sucked so bad i assumed i missed  :p


we'll say as far north of me as he can go

Offline Melblen_Cairn

  • Honorary Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 3593
  • TPK's are my business, and business is good.
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #417 on: April 06, 2015, 08:46:55 AM »
Skeleton will end up at A15.

Shandien did 29 points of damage there, So now it is down to Dunor and Galadren to finish him off...and lets hope he doesn't suddenly rise again  :D.

I will be out of town on a business trip for a few days this week. While I will have ample internet access, and I should be able to keep up on response, some may be a little delayed.
Wisdom has two parts; having a lot to say, and not saying it.

Offline Shadowhunter

  • Hero Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 765
  • E6/E8 fanboy.
    • View Profile
    • The additional vestige collection for all you Binder players out there.
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #418 on: April 06, 2015, 06:11:22 PM »
Shadow, your links are off a bit.  ;)

You don't say  :P
Is it obvious I check all my PbP's at the same time?
Well, they did both miss so I guess it doesn't matter. I don't have the roll anymore, so I guess 'ol Liams character sheet can stay there.

Offline VennDygrem

  • Epic Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4587
  • Exceptionally Average
    • View Profile
Re: Accross the Table (OOC Discussion) [Part 2]
« Reply #419 on: April 06, 2015, 11:11:43 PM »
I am so mad right now, you have no idea.

Shitty day followed by a shitty roll.  :twitch