Author Topic: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness  (Read 165678 times)

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2014, 06:09:56 PM »
The problem with the link is that it condones operating on the idea that you can, after the fact, declare that it was rape based on no actual reason... but only on one side. This sort of view is just... insane, and actually accepting it is terrible to legitimate cases because it trivialises everything.

I refused to read the link (I'm already depressed; I don't need more help to feed the rage and misanthropy), but let me guess: they only talk about women when they say you can withdraw consent retroactively?

Therefore ignoring the fact that rape happens to both genders, you opinionated piece of shit.

Actually, thankfully, gender was barely mentioned, women were never specifically mentioned, and the names in the example case they used implied a gay male couple.

Yeah, I thought it was something Brujon had posted before.

I still think the conclusion is ridiculous because if one side regrets it afterwards they'd be able to do horrific things to the other party's life, whilst broadening rape far beyond any meaningful boundary. It trivialises serious scenarios, since they get mixed in with irrelevant stuff. It is terrible to allow one person to completely redefine the tone of an event after it has happened.

Punishing people for not being psychic or prescient would be sickening.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2014, 06:13:00 PM »
I would be much more angry at the piece, instead of trying to make sense of it, if it implied women somehow couldn't rape men. (Which ... well ... unless 'mutual rape' is a thing, the previous one Brujon came up with kind of did.) The relative lack of sexism had me a little more optimistic there was something worth gleaning from it even if the conclusion is still bizarre and nonsensical.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2014, 06:14:36 PM »
Off topic rant!

I really want to play an old Mutants and Masterminds character that I never got to play.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2014, 06:16:23 PM »
If the Tea-baggers really believed their own B.S. , they'd swap their Gummint Medicare for the sweet tasty Insurance company run arounds, that have been going on.  But they don't and won't, and make everybody else deal with that !@#$.


Are those 2+ docs in different networks?

Uncertain as of yet.  Doc number 2 will be from OSU hospital.

Oh, and apparently I can add Ataxia to my list of medical concerns.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2014, 06:21:48 PM »
Off topic rant!

I really want to play an old Mutants and Masterminds character that I never got to play.
My brother's getting into that, apparently, but I'm not sure he's quite past 'figure out ways it breaks' into 'figure out ways for it not to break' quite yet.

I did barely get to play the one M&M character I made for a campaign ...

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2014, 06:22:07 PM »
The problem with the link is that it condones operating on the idea that you can, after the fact, declare that it was rape based on no actual reason... but only on one side. This sort of view is just... insane, and actually accepting it is terrible to legitimate cases because it trivialises everything.

I refused to read the link (I'm already depressed; I don't need more help to feed the rage and misanthropy), but let me guess: they only talk about women when they say you can withdraw consent retroactively?

Therefore ignoring the fact that rape happens to both genders, you opinionated piece of shit.

Oh, wait, confused it with something else Brujon posted. I wish he'd stop reading this stuff, because I get confused about the sources. >_>

I still think it's dumb to base anything on how you felt after that. You can't criticise or punish people for not being able to see the future. Worse, I can't comprehend declaring it to be morally wrong to be incapable of discerning feelings or emotions that the other person is already unaware of. It's basically saying 'it's wrong to not know someone better than they know themselves, and for an indefinite amount of time in the future!'

Fixed that for you.

What baffles me is that this whole concept would mean that people would scream rape after every break-up. Because clearly they can withdraw their past consent because they're pissed off!
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2014, 06:28:14 PM »
... If your memory gets retroactively twisted into something that terrible, I think you've got worse problems than being pissed off.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2014, 06:29:59 PM »
It turns out I have psychic powers - if I hate you, I retroactively edit my own memories so that I can hate you even more.

Eat it.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2014, 06:31:39 PM »
... If your memory gets retroactively twisted into something that terrible, I think you've got worse problems than being pissed off.

But it doesn't require your memory changing, just your saying it has.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2014, 06:35:47 PM »
It turns out I have psychic powers - if I hate you, I retroactively edit my own memories so that I can hate you even more.

Eat it.

While I'm happy you finally got those psychic powers you've been after, I am quite certain this use of them will hurt you much more than it will enhance your revenge, and urge you to reconsider.

... If your memory gets retroactively twisted into something that terrible, I think you've got worse problems than being pissed off.

But it doesn't require your memory changing, just your saying it has.

Which ... would be lying, which is a problem regardless ...

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2014, 06:36:38 PM »
Off topic rant!

I really want to play an old Mutants and Masterminds character that I never got to play.

Check the PbP forum, there's a guy that wants to run a game, we have two players, me and SorO_Lost, and we're short two. Basic premise is that you get to play a Marvel character, but it has to have some kind of twist in it. Mine is that i'm playing a Lady Deadpool who's also not-hideous (but thinks she is).
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2014, 06:38:07 PM »
... If your memory gets retroactively twisted into something that terrible, I think you've got worse problems than being pissed off.

But it doesn't require your memory changing, just your saying it has.

Which ... would be lying, which is a problem regardless ...

And this vastly magnifies the scope.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2014, 06:45:19 PM »
... you know, sometimes I think I'm deceptive for being able to get away with white lies and lies of convenience, until I start realizing the scale at which people motivated by powerful emotion can and are willing to lie. @_@ Lying out of anger is something that would make perfect (if unpleasant) logical sense, and yet I actively have no idea how to do it and difficulty acknowledging that that is something people are perfectly capable of doing.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2014, 07:14:21 PM »
Off topic rant!

I really want to play an old Mutants and Masterminds character that I never got to play.

Check the PbP forum, there's a guy that wants to run a game, we have two players, me and SorO_Lost, and we're short two. Basic premise is that you get to play a Marvel character, but it has to have some kind of twist in it. Mine is that i'm playing a Lady Deadpool who's also not-hideous (but thinks she is).

I looked at it but it isn't my style at all.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2014, 08:57:20 PM »
... you know, sometimes I think I'm deceptive for being able to get away with white lies and lies of convenience, until I start realizing the scale at which people motivated by powerful emotion can and are willing to lie. @_@ Lying out of anger is something that would make perfect (if unpleasant) logical sense, and yet I actively have no idea how to do it and difficulty acknowledging that that is something people are perfectly capable of doing.
Nah, experience plays a huge part in this. Empathy is based on it, after all. Furthermore, different people react to different emotions in varied ways, and deal with them at the time in a multitude of fashions, too.

You probably have no idea how to do it simply because you don't process your rage like that. Which makes it more difficult to relate to, and therefore understand.

You're also equating two very, VERY different things. Lies of convenience are a means to deal with an unpleasant truth (not the BEST means, but means regardless). Lying out of anger or another emotion is a coping mechanism to deal with the emotion itself. sometimes (but not always) directing that emotion at someone else, whom can be perceived as the source of the emotion or not.

It actually says a little bit about your character that you can't do it. Not being able to acknowledge that others will do it only speaks to your experience.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #75 on: October 17, 2014, 01:12:42 AM »
I don't always resort to violence.  But when I do, it's usually on a dickbag like this.


Found on a certain little site in my sig.  The only upside was in the comments -- people found his address and phone # and posted it  :devil

come to find out, this guy has a conviction for "1st-degree Cruelty to a Child".  Fuck this guy.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #76 on: October 17, 2014, 01:43:19 AM »
When will people learn?

I couldn't and wouldn't join the military myself (my sensory problems mean that I would probably have a mental breakdown as soon as I got shipped out from the stimulus. This is not a good thing. I'm also a conscientious objector, so there is that), but I grew up with military brats; I have nothing but respect for the men and women in uniform.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2014, 03:19:33 AM »
I have better things to do than fight for my country against people who aren't fighting my country. *cough*cough*
Mind you, nothing against military folks, it's my country I couldn't care less about, not the people suffering under it :p

My skill set would put me in a kitchen anyways. Soldja's gotta eat :v

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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2014, 04:47:40 AM »
My skill set would put me in a kitchen anyways. Soldja's gotta eat :v


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Re: The Small Rants Thread IX: Leaping into the Well of Darkness
« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2014, 04:51:18 AM »
I fuckin' love using Paint instead of Photoshop :D