Q: What Happened to People?
A: You're getting old and could swear that these new kids that keep popping up are even dumber than you used to be and ten times louder.
It's true. I'm almost 30 now! Hell, I don't feel old at all.
What ever happened to walking in and asking a question instead of saying the answer right? Like, I'm lazy and poorly motivated. Can you summarize the GitP thread for me because I've barely read up on 5th and couldn't tell the difference on my own.
No, I mean, the thread isn't all that important, just the gist of it is that there are a few rational people over there mentioning that, yeah, 5e is way more balanced than 3e core, and mundanes got a lot better, and even though spellcasters got way nerfed they still have WAAAAAY more options in combat and out, but those few get shouted down by a few rtards constantly parroting the same arguments that you can do anything you want with ability and skill checks and a Rogue with Expertise is better at anything than a spellcaster trying to do anything remotely similar. And they honestly think that spellcasters can't do anything that's not covered by skills/ability checks aside from teleportation, summoning, and like... I don't know something else. Literally, I will have to quote you for this, because you have to see it to believe it, but multiple people have made the claim that there's only three or four things any caster can do, even with 9th level spells, that a mundane can't do with ability checks/spells.
Again, this isn't true. Invisibility, charm, and suggestion spells actually are less effective than a normal rogue. Many classes lack the spell selection and slots to be that versatile. Druid and Wizard are two of the better ones in this regard (rituals, regain some spells on short rest, reasonably fleshed out spell lists) but even then flying, teleports, and bringing the dead to life are about the limit of things martials can't do narratively that casters can (and to be fair I'm not sure anyone wants those abilities for martials regardless).
That's the only quote I could find, but I know he's not the only one to insist that invisibility is worse than Stealth and that those are the only things magic can do that mundanes can't. He's even said that I must be unfamiliar with the system because I disagree with him.
Oh, and also, even though 1st level damage spells got a massive boost (Magic Missile, Inflict Wounds, even Burning Hands), and even though there are guidelines
in the DMG specifying a 1st level healing spell should heal 2d10 damage, there are people arguing, for many pages, that Cure Wounds is a balanced spell, despite it staying
exactly the same spell it was in 3.5, while Magic Missile tripled in effectiveness.
EDIT:
welcome back.
Oh! Also, I meant to say: "Thank you!"