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Offline Masakan

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Help Finalize this bard build I almost got it.
« on: March 01, 2016, 11:16:11 AM »
I'm so close I'm so close to getting it perfect.
But I feel there are still a few loose ends to tie up.
The idea is to make an Enchantress Dancer who specializes in Diplomacy/Info Gathering/Sleuthing/Spying and if needed theft. In combat she would use mainly Enchantment and Illusion spells to debilitate her opponents or Buff her allies.

However I've run into a bit of a Roadblock.
1. For the first few levels her Feat slots would be air tight and more or less dedicated to getting requirements for other classes
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2 While she would be amazing in a group, on her own I fear she would be helpless. Which is something you don't wanna be if a negotiation goes south.

This is what I came up with so far but I know it could be improved on..
Let me know if there is anything i can do and if there is anything i can clarify on.
Bard 1
Martial Rouge 2
Bard 3
Ardent Dilligant 4
Heartwarder 10

Suggested Stats
Str:12
Dex:12
Con:14
Int:14
Wis:10
Cha:16

Race:Half-Elf

Weapon of Choice:Stunning Surge Whip Dagger

Total Skill Points:171

Feats
Nymphs Kiss
Melodic Casting
Spell Focus(Enchantment)
Dodge Bonus Feat 1
Mobility Bonus Feat 2
Snowflake Wardance
Spring Attack
Extend Spell
Mastery of Faerie Enchantment(Ardent Dilligant Bonus Feat)
Versitile Spellcaster
Force of Personality
Bounding Assault

Flaws:Meager Fortitude
Shaky

Traits
Easygoing
Passionate

Spells
Level 1
Charm Person
Tasha's Hideous Laughter
Comprehend Languages
Detect Secret Doors
Improvisation

Level 2
Tongues
Detect Thoughts
Spymaster's Coin
Elation
Caterwaul

Level 3
Charm Monster
Speechlink
Know Opponent
Cone of Euphoria
Displacement

Level 4
Shadow Conjuration
Greater Mirror Image
Dolorous Motes
Ruin Delver's Fortune
Sirine's Grace

Level 5
Shadow Evocation
Mind Fog
Evacuation Rune
Bolts of Bedevilment

Level 6
Empyreal Ecstasy
Otto's Irresistible Dance
Snowsong


Crown of Flames
Veil of Allure
Robe of Mysterious Conjuration
Cloak of Charisma
Hat of Disguise
Amulet of Health
Gauntlets of Heartfelt Blows
Crystal of Energy Assault
Bracers of Armor
Mithral Bells
Elixir of Love
Slippers of battledancing


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Re: Help Finalize this bard build I almost got it.
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 05:31:39 PM »
A few questions:
1) What level are you starting at?  If you're starting at level 1, I'm not sure how fun it will be for the first 5 or 6 levels.
2) Is the misspelling of "Martial Rouge" intentional in this case?   :lol
3) Is that Ardent Dilettante 4?  If so, what are you getting out of it that you find preferable to more Bard?

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Re: Help Finalize this bard build I almost got it.
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 05:50:32 PM »
A few questions:
1) What level are you starting at?  If you're starting at level 1, I'm not sure how fun it will be for the first 5 or 6 levels.
2) Is the misspelling of "Martial Rouge" intentional in this case?   :lol
3) Is that Ardent Dilettante 4?  If so, what are you getting out of it that you find preferable to more Bard?
1. I'm well aware that in combat she's gonna be limited for a few levels, her role in those cases would basically be the party face keeping them out of trouble...the skill monkey as it were
2. I do that all the time im sorry
3. Nice flavor, More durability, Bonus feat, and skills that scale off charisma
See no matter what i do I'm going heartwarder from levels 11-20
The difficult part is finalizing what comes before it. Plus it's the only Prestige class for bards I could find, that doesn't require me to have level 3 spells to get into......actually now that I think about it if I'm doing it like this it would be easy for me to qualify for lyric thaumaturge....though now I have to rethink what my lvl 9 feat would be cause extend spell is useless to me with out the faerie enchantment feat

Also I wanna make a few changes I've been stringing about
Bard 1
Battle Dancer 1(replacing the martial Rouge 2 levels)
Bard 4(Adding one more Bard level for good measure)
Lyric Thaumaturege 4
Heartwarder 10

Melodic Casting
Dodge
Spell Focus(Enchantment)
Mobility
Snowflake Wardance
No idea what to get for Level 9
Elusive Target
No idea what to get for Level 15
Versatile Spellcaster

And some spell changes that I don't think are worth getting into.
The general idea is to basically make a character as SAD as possible,and having heartwarder amplify all of that.