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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #700 on: February 04, 2014, 03:07:59 PM »
Pooping all over Attack on Titan on reddit and enjoying the downvotes I'm getting.

A friend of mine christened it Struggle on Bigmen or something. She's not very impressed by it... especially any claims of 'realism'. Yes, realism is bungee cords and boxcutters.
I just started watching it, although the Titans themselves are not the most compelling of villains I find that I am enjoying it.  It is impressively and unflinchingly dark, and not in the usual anime way (read:  Evangelion).  And, at least the characters have a reason to whine. 

But, I will tell you that in 10 episodes "realism" was never once a word that even entered my mind.  Indeed, it seems incredibly not so, and in the usual anime-esque ways.  The protagonists are all super at at least something (they have at least one stat at 18+), rule of cool ninja moves are the preferred method of combat (so ... nobody thought of sniping their week point ever?!), their technology level is all over the map, and force of will has slightly less impact on the physical world than Star Wars' the Force.  I could go on, but I think that's enough to make it about as realistic as say, Death Note or Code Geass or really any other anime. 

Acting for logical worlds in anime is kind of like asking for high drama from soap operas -- it's just apparently not their thing.  Rule of Cool rules the day.  I'll settle for consistent characters, at least, and maybe some internal consistency.  But, like I said, I've found it pretty watchable, if pretty standard anime with a bit more in your face blood, through the first 10 or so episodes.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #701 on: February 04, 2014, 03:36:43 PM »
Pooping all over Attack on Titan on reddit and enjoying the downvotes I'm getting.

A friend of mine christened it Struggle on Bigmen or something. She's not very impressed by it... especially any claims of 'realism'. Yes, realism is bungee cords and boxcutters.
I just started watching it, although the Titans themselves are not the most compelling of villains I find that I am enjoying it.  It is impressively and unflinchingly dark, and not in the usual anime way (read:  Evangelion).  And, at least the characters have a reason to whine.

I don't think they ever stop.

Even though it can be summed up as 'introducing people just to kill them off: the anime'.

You'd think they'd get desensitised.

I'm more biased against it than I normally would be, because one guy told me I'm not allowed to dislike/not watch Attack on Titan, because I like Kill la Kill and Gurren Lagann. Apparently I'm not allowed to prefer one dystopian future to another, even though the tone of the thing strikes me as pointless (it's worse than even 40k is in the 'pointlessly dark' camp, and I like that because it's so over the top). :/

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #702 on: February 04, 2014, 03:47:44 PM »
40k's self awareness, that it's grimdark to the point of self-parody, cures a lot.  It knows it's a guilty pleasure. 

Maybe AOT will sour on me after a few more episodes.  I might just fast forward to the fights, which I end up doing all too often. 

I have been meaning to take a look at Kill la Kill (in my copious free time ...), which I thank Deviantart for, somewhat randomly.  But, I just couldn't get into Guerren Lagann.  I don't know why, maybe I felt it was too slow at the time?  Or, maybe I just haven't been in that anime-ish a mood.  I kind of abandoned Bleach after the Aizen arc.  Not that I have a ton of time in my life for tv shows as it is.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #703 on: February 04, 2014, 04:03:20 PM »
40k's self awareness, that it's grimdark to the point of self-parody, cures a lot.  It knows it's a guilty pleasure. 

Maybe AOT will sour on me after a few more episodes.  I might just fast forward to the fights, which I end up doing all too often. 

I have been meaning to take a look at Kill la Kill (in my copious free time ...), which I thank Deviantart for, somewhat randomly.  But, I just couldn't get into Guerren Lagann.  I don't know why, maybe I felt it was too slow at the time?  Or, maybe I just haven't been in that anime-ish a mood.  I kind of abandoned Bleach after the Aizen arc.  Not that I have a ton of time in my life for tv shows as it is.

Gurren Lagann starts rather slow, yes. And the third (or is it fourth?) episode is simply... weird.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #704 on: February 04, 2014, 05:29:46 PM »
Attack On Titan is amusing, but it's completely and utter unrealistic to the point where watching it with anything other than your fantasy glasses will make the experience unpleasant. It's a well animated anime, that has a lot of interesting fights and moments, but it's no Shakugan no Shana to me.

BTW if anyone's looking for a well-recomended anime, that's one i'd surely mention. There's three seasons and the whole of the three seasons are well worth watching. The premise is good, the execution too, and the characters have some degree of fiber for a change of heart. And it's beautiful animation in 1080p blu-ray rip. Sure it has a lot of clichés but any anime does. It's how they manage to please the otaku hordes.
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #706 on: February 05, 2014, 06:05:39 AM »
Watching New Getter Robo. Man, if the manga is THAT in-your-face about the blood flying around, I wonder how much the original series got censored...
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #707 on: February 09, 2014, 07:47:16 PM »
Watching New Getter Robo. Man, if the manga is THAT in-your-face about the blood flying around, I wonder how much the original series got censored...
The manga has some crazy stuff, but the characters are more traditionally heroic than in NGR. Getter Robo Go and its prequel Shin Getter Robo add some cosmic horror elements.

(Note: The Getter Robo Go anime is unpopular and has very little to do with the manga)

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #708 on: February 09, 2014, 07:49:43 PM »
Apparently the protagonists of the manga can be summed up as a nice guy, a sociopath, and a borderline psychopath. XD

... really need to seek it out some time. Mostly because giant giant mecha.

Relevant video.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #709 on: February 09, 2014, 08:04:20 PM »
Relevant video.

Hatsune Miku should be the standard unit for everything.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #710 on: February 09, 2014, 08:06:50 PM »
Relevant video.

Hatsune Miku should be the standard unit for everything.

Because measuring an attack ridiculously larger than something bigger than the observable universe in Hatsune Miku really works out. :lmao

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #711 on: February 09, 2014, 08:12:42 PM »
I lol'd when Happy Robo showed up.

EDIT: Translation of that video.
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #712 on: February 09, 2014, 08:17:23 PM »
I lol'd when Happy Robo showed up.

I was more amused by the random presence of Wailord. :p

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #713 on: February 09, 2014, 09:07:55 PM »
I lol'd at all the ludicrously high numbers right before the last two mecha.
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #714 on: February 09, 2014, 09:49:18 PM »
I lol'd at all the ludicrously high numbers right before the last two mecha.

STTGL is bigger than the universe.

It summons a drill that dwarfs it.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #715 on: February 09, 2014, 10:15:02 PM »
After this, i had to look what GEB was, then i was dragged into an infinity of fanboy discussions regarding powerlevels and shit between omnipotent beings like Elder God Demonbane and The Presence and Great Evil Beast and the Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Drill and what not...

OMG there's so much theorycrafting and battle-threads it's kind of disgusting. I thought i knew how much Marvel and DC go crazy on their stories. I was wrong. Why do people even read it anymore after so many ret-cons and failed universes/multiverses/omniverses?

I'm like, wtf.... And contrary to what i believe, some of the REALLY crazy omniverse level stuff actually happened on older issues, during the end of the golden age and beggining of the silver age of comics... I thought they were getting worse with time, but it's actually the opposite and stuff's getting tamer/saner.
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #716 on: February 09, 2014, 10:21:44 PM »
After this, i had to look what GEB was, then i was dragged into an infinity of fanboy discussions regarding powerlevels and shit between omnipotent beings like Elder God Demonbane and The Presence and Great Evil Beast and the Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann Drill and what not...

Trying to measure the power level of super robots is pointless. Silly people.

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #717 on: February 10, 2014, 11:35:12 AM »
*imaginary* super robots and beings with no connection whatsoever to reality even tangentially...
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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #718 on: February 10, 2014, 11:46:39 AM »
*imaginary* super robots and beings with no connection whatsoever to reality even tangentially...

And anything from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann has its power level determined entirely by how hot-blooded you are (well, determination, but hey).

... actually, most of the things seem to work on that principle. Just less... literally. XD

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Re: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood
« Reply #719 on: February 10, 2014, 03:24:55 PM »
*imaginary* super robots and beings with no connection whatsoever to reality even tangentially...
I imagine the bigger problem is that the super robots, et al. don't even exist in the same imaginary conceptual space.  It's not so hard to compare Aragorn to Bilbo or Jaime Lannister to Podric Payne.  And, occasionally can be important, such as making sure a character's response to a threat by Jaime makes sense.  Comparing Ichigo Kurosaki to Wing-0 ...