Author Topic: Anime & Manga 4: Brotherhood (Read 301859 times)

ketaro · « **Reply #960 on:** September 28, 2014, 04:08:03 AM »

They pretty much focused on chinese sites (completely like I expected because MASSIVE RACIAL HATRED WOOOOO) and even then barely scratched the surface. Which is a little disheartening actually because that was federal money being wasted.....

Raineh Daze · « **Reply #961 on:** September 28, 2014, 08:28:39 AM »

Quote from: SorO_Lost on September 27, 2014, 11:05:43 PM

Quote from: Raineh Daze on September 27, 2014, 08:33:12 PM
Sooooo many things that have never been translated...
So it's not stealing if I translate things into Pig-Latin or just learn Japanese and pirate the originals? O.o

And no, I doubt hosts don't make money by an ad, even by throwing a dozen up per video like that one terrible site simply because people will avoid it. I believe most manage by donation. You'd be shocked at how much you can rake in off donations alone, it's probably how these boards manage.

I'm referring to the cases where the 'stealing' ends up doing nothing to harm the publisher, because the people watching it would be totally unable to obtain it in a comprehensible format in any other way. (Most tokusatsu ends up like that, but that's outside the scope of this)

Rin · « **Reply #962 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:09:56 AM »

Quote from: Raineh Daze on September 28, 2014, 08:28:39 AM

(Most tokusatsu ends up like that, but that's outside the scope of this)

From what I know, Toei at least are apparently fine with people outside Japan pirating stuff like Kamen Rider and Super Sentai even if they can't outright say they endorse it. XD It helps that most of the money they make from those franchises comes from merchandise anyways (I say, as I lovingly gaze at the Kamen Rider Gaim Figurarts standing triumphantly on my desk).

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #963 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:14:03 AM »

In some cases those series aren't even available in Japan anymore. Notably, series from the 80's and backwards. How would one watch the original Hokuto no Ken in Japan without the aid of a streaming site or somesuch? Or Baoh? Or City Hunter?

Raineh Daze · « **Reply #964 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:15:05 AM »

Or the original Mazinger!

... which I do not recommend, as the sub is hilariously bad.

Rin · « **Reply #965 on:** September 28, 2014, 11:16:31 AM »

THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN STAND AGAINST DR. HILL AND HIS MIGHTY CRABSTICK IS TALL EVIL GOD Z

SorO_Lost · « **Reply #966 on:** September 28, 2014, 12:23:38 PM »

Quote from: Raineh Daze on September 28, 2014, 08:28:39 AM

I'm referring to the cases where the 'stealing' ends up doing nothing to harm the publisher, because the people watching it would be totally unable to obtain it in a comprehensible format in any other way. (Most tokusatsu ends up like that, but that's outside the scope of this)

Sounds like the OneManga view of things. If it's going to be translated then don't steal it.

I could almost go with that, I just have this ten year weight around my neck screaming "Naruto will end and you'll be free, free at last!" that refuses to wait another three or four years for it to end.

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #967 on:** September 28, 2014, 02:50:22 PM »

Lots of sites have an upload blacklist so as to not hurt publisher bottom lines. They still get the occasional cease and desist for things that aren't making their way to this side of the ocean.

On the flipside, it could be argued that without fansubbers, we probably wouldn't be getting as much content brought over and translated, due to the unfathomable whims of the publishers. Here in Brazil, Naruto and One Pierce were already a hit among those who went around the internet looking for manga and anime LONG before they were brought over, and already had a reliable fanbase...

Rin · « **Reply #968 on:** September 28, 2014, 05:21:27 PM »

Argued nothing. There are quite a few anime/manga distributors who have outright admitted that they look to see what's popular in the fansubs/scanlations as indication of what they should bring over to the west. I think the best example would probably be Gurren Lagann, since that was so hot in demand that they did a quick sub-only release to tide fans over whilst they worked on the dub. XD

...And I being the schmuck that I am own both that original release and the dub release. Although to be fair the sub-only release was region-1 and I am region-2 so it was nice to have a copy I could play on something other than my PC. ^^;

And yeah, most of the big fan translation groups take the "if it's officially licensed, we're not translating it; please support the official release" standpoint, which is really the best way to do things honestly.

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #969 on:** September 28, 2014, 05:29:28 PM »

Well, unless they really fuck up the translation along the lines somewhere.

NISA is getting quite the reputation for it of late, unfortunately. Akiba's Trip, Criminal Girls...

oslecamo · « **Reply #970 on:** September 29, 2014, 04:05:41 PM »

Man, all the copyright laws nowadays makes me wonder why did anybody bother to write anything back in the day.

Clearly Shakespeare/Luís de Camões/Homero/Confuccio never bothered writing any great books because they feared somebody would copy them... Oh, wait, they did write epic stuff despite knowing that other people would copy them without paying royalties!

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Well, I still recommend you at least watch episode 8 skipping straight to minute 11:54 for a minute.
The site bitched about my Adblocker.
So I clicked on my other addon and forced the clip to download to my HD rather than stream so I'm not even on the page while I watch it.

Since you did watch it, any comments?

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #971 on:** September 29, 2014, 06:12:52 PM »

They basically didn't care back then because their epic stories were about expressing themselves, not getting filthy stinkin' rich - most of them were already part of the upper class. Shakespeare might be the exception though, his plays were essentially the pulp novels of the time.

Raineh Daze · « **Reply #972 on:** September 29, 2014, 06:51:31 PM »

I concluded that Wuthering Heights is basically a trashy tabloid.

oslecamo · « **Reply #973 on:** September 29, 2014, 07:06:25 PM »

Quote from: Kuroimaken on September 29, 2014, 06:12:52 PM

They basically didn't care back then because their epic stories were about expressing themselves, not getting filthy stinkin' rich - most of them were already part of the upper class. Shakespeare might be the exception though, his plays were essentially the pulp novels of the time.

Pfft, Luís de Camões was infamous for being poor most of his life (despite tecnically being from a noble family, since their finances were kinda in ruin), and dying in material misery.

"Poor artist that still expresses himself" is kinda of a staple of human history.

In the other extreme there's Lu Buwei, who was already prime minister of the state of Quin and basically as powerful as emperor, one of the filthiest richest persons of the world at his time. And he still decided "I'm gonna write a 12 volume book", and it survived until today. And then Lu Buwei ordered a copy to be displayed on the market of the capital so everybody could read it and even made the challenge "If somebody can add or remove a single character from this book that improves it, I'll pay that person 1000 gold coins".

Kuroimaken · « **Reply #974 on:** September 29, 2014, 07:49:02 PM »

Man, he must've spellchecked the everloving HELL out of that book.

oslecamo · « **Reply #975 on:** October 03, 2014, 08:13:03 PM »

He kinda had some hundreds of hired scholars help him with that.

On other news, new Berserk out.

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Raineh Daze · « **Reply #976 on:** October 12, 2014, 09:34:40 AM »

Ufotable, how do you make everything so pretty and not go bust?

oslecamo · « **Reply #977 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:32:18 PM »

Last One Piece: 99,999% of the humans on that setting are confirmed as complete jerks. A little kid with a disease in search of a cure and every hospital he goes the treatment received is "Kill it with fire!" Negative points for being a non-infectious disease.

Yeah I know that the world government pumped plenty of bad propaganda to make it happen, but still what kind of terrible medicine system do they have there that every medic and nurse seems to just believes it like that? Even during the black plague times some people tried to help the diseased.

On the other hand one of One Piece's country's whole population had a whole generation starting to die earlier than normal and nobody suspected anything was strange until the next generation also started to die earlier, so they may just be that stupid in general. No wonder almost nobody ever gets killed by guns or blades, their engineers and smiths must all suck as much as their medics. Further confirmed by the fact that the guys who get super powers with the drawback of being rendered defenceless in seawater decide to all live traveling the sea (except for lighting dude and desert dude).

oslecamo · « **Reply #978 on:** October 21, 2014, 01:12:20 PM »

Dr.Hell Zero:mr. president, do you even lift?

SorO_Lost · « **Reply #979 on:** October 23, 2014, 04:23:39 PM »

Naruto

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