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Can You Create a Demiplane?
« on: December 10, 2019, 01:17:34 PM »
Can your create a demiplane in 5e similar to the what the Genesis spell allowed you to do in 3rd Edition? By spell or otherwise?
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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2019, 05:07:07 PM »
6 possible answers

#1 ... by strict r.a.w. no
#2 ... but maybe someday

#3 ... by r.a.i. Wish can do : an Off-list 8 , with shortened casting time , with no cost expensive M , and no Conc check.  So it's really an inside the DM's mind debate ... (you know I love that stuff) ... whether Wish could do it straightforward, or as a ritual, or trigger the harsh rest requirement, or the ultra-penalty.
#4 ... same with the Cleric 20 ability, and/or possibly better DMfiat

#5 ... Eberron (iirc) has that 10% chance per level to trade 1 HD for an Epic ability (of course you try to do this anyway). Totals a 55% chance to happen.  Randomly one of them might help out the Wish or Cle20.
Nope on #s

#6 ... oh wait, were you actually hinting/talking about Psionic Genesis ?!
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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2019, 10:23:32 AM »
1-2: noted

3-4: the ol wish work-around

5: Thanks. Was unaware of this. Will look into it. Hadn't picked that book up yet for 5e.

6: I'll always be taking the psionic advocacy angle :love :beathorse

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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2020, 03:01:19 PM »
#5 revisit

It's the Aberrant Dragonmark feat
+1 to Con , 1 cantrip and 1 first level spell from Sorc list
and then it's the alt / dmfiat possibility
trading 1 HD for 1 supposedly random Epic Boon.
And the chance is roughly 68.6% of getting it.
 (not the 2quikndurty # a post back).

Why would a PC not take this ?!
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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 02:55:59 PM »
the Demiplane spell creates a demiplane for 1 hour.
then when the spell expires, the demiplane doesn't actually go away.
things remain "there" trapped.

Let's suppose what this means, is the demiplane still exists,
that the spell provided easy means of going to and from.

You just have to know where that demiplane is
info which should be within reach of a Wish or Cleric 20
and then you cast Gate to get there and back.

Maybe you could already be there, and cast Gate to leave.
Still doesn't provide the ~address.
You could do all your adventuring during the duration of the Gate.

Altogether a whole lot less dmfiat than using Wish to create a demiplane.
Locating X <<<< Creating X
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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2020, 02:46:30 PM »
1 supposedly random Epic Boon.

What and where are these?

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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 06:08:17 PM »
1 supposedly random Epic Boon.

What and where are these?

afb , but page 232 (?) of the DMG.
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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 02:53:48 PM »
1 supposedly random Epic Boon.

What and where are these?

afb , but page 232 (?) of the DMG.
I really need to sit down and fully read 5E. I'm still stuck half-way between 3E and 5E.

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Re: Can You Create a Demiplane?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 04:58:24 PM »
Same here, but what's the big deal?

The whatever they call it dnddoofus web site, tracks a big pile of data and occasionally releases something they think is interesting.  I doubt they've got anything or any record, about Epic so far.  Meanwhile 3.X has E6 ; accomplishing basically the same thing.
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