Criticism of Moderation

[Sinfire Titan]

Just wanted to be sure we weren't bringing in zero tolerance blanket hammering.

If it gets to the point where Meg or Josh start getting emails about the cursing then we'd start cracking down on it. But the odds of someone being that offended are so improbable that it isn't likely to happen in this lifetime.

[littha]

Considering the content of the podcast that would have to be rather bad lol...

[bhu]

Cant we all just agree to make nice on the forum while surreptitiously tracking each other down online so we can throw fruit at each other at opportune moments in real life?

[awaken_D_M_golem]

This thread is now to be used for criticism about the moderators in general. Please be constructive about it.

Your avatar is still wearing the same outfit.
Are you sure she (or it) doesn't want to change her "shorts" ??

                                            

[DonQuixote]

Cant we all just agree to make nice on the forum while surreptitiously tracking each other down online so we can throw fruit at each other at opportune moments in real life?

Surreptitiously?  Too much effort.

[Libertad]

This thread is now to be used for criticism about the moderators in general. Please be constructive about it.

Your avatar is still wearing the same outfit.
Are you sure she (or it) doesn't want to change her "shorts" ??

                                            

The avatar's a female.  She's Setsuna Sakurazaki of the Negima! series, expert in swordplay.  And I don't think those are shorts.

[Mooncrow]

This thread is now to be used for criticism about the moderators in general. Please be constructive about it.

Your avatar is still wearing the same outfit.
Are you sure she (or it) doesn't want to change her "shorts" ??

                                            

The avatar's a female.  She's Setsuna Sakurazaki of the Negima! series, expert in swordplay.  And I don't think those are shorts.

They aren't - they're called hakama. 

[Amechra]

And they are a damn sight more comfortable than shorts, thank you very much (I made my own pair, and I have to say that if it weren't for the fact that they take time to put on that I don't have (haven't practiced the "putting them on" thing enough), I would wear them everyday.)

This was a public service announcement from Hakama Wearers Anonymous; lose your anonymity!

[Prime32]

And they are a damn sight more comfortable than shorts, thank you very much

O RLY?

[SorO_Lost]

This thread is now to be used for criticism about the moderators in general. Please be constructive about it.

Your avatar is still wearing the same outfit.
Are you sure she (or it) doesn't want to change her "shorts" ??

Ninja'ed, I wanted to complain about Sinfire being a little girl.

How about bonfire?

[JaronK]

I think the difficulty here is that sometimes the more stealthy sort of modding (where you PM someone with a warning, instead of doing it publicly) can make it seem like the modding isn't happening, at least as far as others see.  So when they get a warning, they think the other person hasn't gotten one, and that feels unfair (especially when one of the people is clearly trying to provoke).

It's a tough balance... heavy handed public modding can quickly shut down any interesting discussion, but more subtle moderating can make it feel like it's not there at all.

Perhaps it might be a good idea when there's multiple posters getting warnings at once from an overheated argument for the note to be public, or at least for the PM to each to include the fact that messages are going out to the others?  That might solve the issue.

JaronK

[Tshern]

I think the difficulty here is that sometimes the more stealthy sort of modding (where you PM someone with a warning, instead of doing it publicly) can make it seem like the modding isn't happening, at least as far as others see.  So when they get a warning, they think the other person hasn't gotten one, and that feels unfair (especially when one of the people is clearly trying to provoke).

An excellent point there. However, on occasion a discreet comment can be better than a public one. Sometimes the thread is going on fine and well, but one or two bad messages litter it. In cases like that, a PM might be the best option.

It's a tough balance... heavy handed public modding can quickly shut down any interesting discussion, but more subtle moderating can make it feel like it's not there at all.

Agreed. I sort of dealt with this in my above comment.

[bhu]

I think the difficulty here is that sometimes the more stealthy sort of modding (where you PM someone with a warning, instead of doing it publicly) can make it seem like the modding isn't happening, at least as far as others see.  So when they get a warning, they think the other person hasn't gotten one, and that feels unfair (especially when one of the people is clearly trying to provoke).

It's a tough balance... heavy handed public modding can quickly shut down any interesting discussion, but more subtle moderating can make it feel like it's not there at all.

Perhaps it might be a good idea when there's multiple posters getting warnings at once from an overheated argument for the note to be public, or at least for the PM to each to include the fact that messages are going out to the others?  That might solve the issue.

JaronK

In one of the more interesting forums I'm in the head admin posts a public note saying 'all of you will be PM'd, please cease until said time" before he PM's them.  It works out pretty good.

Of course he also used to shoot people for the government in 'Nam so maybe there's a reason people accept his decisions with so little complaint...

[RobbyPants]

That could work.  A public announcement followed up by individual PMs.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Hey, I'm not up on what women call "shorts" just the next store rack over.
She screams they are different ... I still have no idea.
I mean all the girls are wearing Ugh boots now, but I know that's just a brand name.
Whatever.
Shorts and Boots, both suffering from Psi-X syndrome.

I'm thinking the same dirty  thoughts regardless of wtf they're called.


{ ... insert no I'm not lusting after Sinfire's avatar smiley face ... }

[JaronK]

...I was talking about general modding strategy and conflict resolution and fairness, with the hopes that future situations would be resolved better.  I actually wasn't talking about a specific incident (in fact, I was thinking of a specific incident a long time ago involving another poster on another forum, where I felt it was unfair to be warned about something... only to have the mod tell me later that the other poster had been warned as well.  Then I felt better about it). 

I also actually do emergency conflict mediation work in real life, so this is an area of expertise for me.  So no BB, that post had nothing to do with you, even if the original complaint did.  I actually figured you'd run off and weren't going to return, so there was no point discussing you.

JaronK

[EjoThims]

I'd just like to take this moment to point out that most of the posts in this thread are subtly or not so subtly bitching about a specific poster

Initially perhaps (definitely, depending on where you draw the 'initially' line).

But for a while now it's simply been about different moderation strategies.

[X-Codes]

...I was talking about general modding strategy and conflict resolution and fairness, with the hopes that future situations would be resolved better.  I actually wasn't talking about a specific incident (in fact, I was thinking of a specific incident a long time ago involving another poster on another forum, where I felt it was unfair to be warned about something... only to have the mod tell me later that the other poster had been warned as well.  Then I felt better about it). 

I also actually do emergency conflict mediation work in real life, so this is an area of expertise for me.  So no BB, that post had nothing to do with you, even if the original complaint did.  I actually figured you'd run off and weren't going to return, so tThere wasis no point discussing you.

JaronK

I summarized your post for you.

[RobbyPants]

And yet, complaining about non specific posters and non specific problems on another board is not allowed. Else the GitP thread would not have been locked.

Meg's stance for several years has been that she doesn't like threads bitching about/poking fun of other sites.

[Sinfire Titan]

And yet, complaining about non specific posters and non specific problems on another board is not allowed. Else the GitP thread would not have been locked.

Meg's stance for several years has been that she doesn't like threads bitching about/poking fun of other sites.

And, to be fair, we kinda let that get out of hand when it was allowed.