Interesting stuff in Pathfinder

[zook1shoe]

Weapon Master's Handbook stuff that stood out

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there's a section on building custom weapons

Weapon Trick (Combat)
Choose one weapon trick option (one-handed weapon,
polearm, ranged, two-handed weapon, two-weapon, or
weapon and shield). You can perform weapon tricks in
combat when armed appropriately for that option.
Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: You can use any weapon tricks relating to the
chosen weapon option if you meet the trick’s prerequisites
and are proficient with any weapon or shield that you use
as part of the trick.
Special: You can gain Weapon Trick multiple times.
Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new weapon
trick option.

Quick Brace (base attack bonus +6): While taking a full-
attack action with a polearm with brace, you can ready an
attack with the polearm in place of your final attack. The
readied attack uses the attack bonus of the attack you used
to ready it.

Does this require the bracing attack be from the polearm? I don't see why not replace a bite?

Divine Fighting Technique (Combat)
You have trained in the fighting technique of a deity.
Prerequisite: Same alignment as chosen deity.
Benefit: Select a deity. You can use that deity’s fighting
technique and receive any benefit for which you qualify, as
described in the Divine Fighting Techniques section below.
Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each
time you take this feat, it applies to a new deity’s divine
fighting technique.

Abadar’s Crossbow
Abadar teaches complex crossbow techniques.
Initial Benefit: You can attempt a ranged
stealAPG combat maneuver check with a
crossbow, using your Dexterity modifier in place of your
Strength modifier to calculate your Combat Maneuver
Bonus. If you succeed, the stolen item is knocked away by
the bolt; if the bolt can pierce any part of the item and the
item weighs 2 pounds or less, the bolt continues past the
creature and carries the item up to one range increment
away, pinning it to whatever surface it lands on.

Great when used on a spell component pouch or wand, launching it like 50+ feet away

Iomedae’s Inspiring Sword
Iomedae demonstrates how to turn a longsword into a
shining beacon of hope.
Optional Replacement: A paladin who worships Iomedae
can replace a mercy with this initial benefit, even if she
doesn’t meets its prerequisites.
Initial Benefit: While wielding a longsword, you can
perform an impressive display of prowess as a full-round
action. All allies within 30 feet who can see your display
gain a +2 sacred bonus on attack rolls, saving throws, and
skill checks for 1 round + 1 round per 5 points of base attack
bonus you have.

Nice option usable unlimited times per day.

Overwatch Vortex (Combat)
You are ready to respond to many more of your foes’ actions.
Prerequisites: Overwatch Style, Overwatch Tactician,
Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Weapon Focus with the chosen
weapon, base attack bonus +11.
Benefit: While using the Overwatch Style, as a full-
round action you can ready up to four ranged attacks, each
with its own triggering event. You take a –2 penalty on
attack rolls made with these readied actions.

Pretty cool

Startoss Comet (Combat)
You can aim a thrown weapon so it strikes two foes.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot, Startoss Style,
Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: As a standard action, you can make a single
ranged thrown weapon attack at your full attack bonus
with the chosen weapon. If you hit, you deal damage
normally and can make a second attack (at your full attack
bonus) against a target within one range increment of
the first. You determine cover for this attack from the
first target’s space instead of your space. You can make
only one additional attack per round with this feat. If
you have Vital Strike, Improved Vital Strike, or Greater
Vital Strike, you can add the additional damage from
those feats to the initial ranged attack (but not the
second attack).

Startoss Shower (Combat)
You can strike multiple opponents with thrown weapons.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot, Startoss Comet,
Startoss Style, Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon,
base attack bonus +4.
Benefit: When you hit an opponent while using the
Startoss Comet feat, you can continue to make attacks
against foes that are within one range increment of all
previous opponents. You determine cover for each attack
from the most recently hit foe’s space instead of your
space, and you cannot attack an individual foe more than
once during this attack action. You can make a maximum
number of attacks equal to 1 + 1 per 5 points of base attack
bonus you possess. If you have Vital Strike, Improved Vital
Strike, or Greater Vital Strike, you can add the additional
damage from those feats to the initial ranged attack (but
not any subsequent attacks).

Startoss Style (Combat, Style)
Your thrown weapons become more deadly.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Point-Blank Shot, Weapon Focus
with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: Choose one weapon from the thrown fighter
weapon group. While using this style and the chosen
weapon, you gain a bonus on damage rolls made with the
weapon equal to 2 + 2 per style feat you possess that lists
Startoss Style as a prerequisite (maximum +6 damage). You
cannot use this ability if you are carrying a weapon or a
shield in your off hand (except for a buckler).
Special: In addition to the chosen weapon, a character
with this feat and the weapon training (thrown) class
feature can use Startoss Style with any thrown weapons
that she wields in one hand.

Some interesting options

Ascetic Form (Combat)
You have mastered the ability to blend the use of arms
with martial arts.
Prerequisites: Ascetic Style; Weapon Focus with the
chosen melee weapon; base attack bonus +5 or monk
level 5th.
Benefit: You can use the chosen melee weapon with
any class ability that can be used with an unarmed strike,
such as an unchained monk’s style strike ability. In
addition, you are treated as a monk with a level equal to
your character level for the purpose of determining
the number of times per day that you can use
feats with uses per day that depend upon
your monk level, such as the Stunning Fist or
Perfect Strike feats.

Ascetic Style (Combat, Style)
You blend arms and martial arts, using
weapons with the same ease as unarmed strikes.
Prerequisites: Weapon Focus with the chosen
melee weapon; base attack bonus +1 or monk
level 1st.
Benefit: Choose one weapon from the monk
fighter weapon group. While using this style and
wielding the chosen weapon, you can apply the
effects of feats that have Improved Unarmed Strike
as a prerequisite, as well as effects that augment
an unarmed strike, as if attacks with the weapon were
unarmed attacks.
Special: A 5th-level monk or character with the weapon
training (monk) class feature can use Ascetic Style with any
monk weapon, in addition to the chosen melee weapon.

Doesn't appear to require the same weapon? So flurry of earth breakers it is.

Outslug Sprint (Combat)
You can make quick, defensive movements.
Prerequisites: Int 13; Combat Expertise or brawler’s
cunningACG class feature; Lunge; Outslug Style; Outslug
Weave; Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: While using Outslug Style, you can move an
additional 5 feet when making a 5-foot step.

10 foot step anyone?

Spear Dancing Reach (Combat)
You can strike from afar with double weapons.
Prerequisites: Dex 17, Spear Dancing Spiral, Spear
Dancing Style, Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse,
Weapon Focus with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: While using Spear Dancing Style and making
a full attack using the chosen weapon as a double weapon,
you can grant the reach special weapon feature to one or
both of the weapon’s ends until the end of your turn as a
swift action.
Spear Dancing Spiral (Combat)
You wield spears with poise and grace.
Prerequisites: Dex 15, Spear Dancing Style, Two-
Weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus with
the chosen weapon.
Benefit: While using Spear Dancing Style, you gain the
benefit of Weapon Finesse with the chosen weapon if it is
appropriately sized for a creature of your size category. In
addition, you can use any feat or ability that functions with
a quarterstaff with your chosen weapon.
Spear Dancing Style (Combat, Style)
You can use polearms and spears as double weapons.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon
Focus with the chosen weapon.
Benefit: Choose one weapon from the polearm or spear
fighter weapon groups. While using this style, you grant
the chosen weapon the double special weapon feature,
using the weapon’s normal statistics for its main-hand
end and the statistics of a light mace for its off-hand end.
A weapon wielded in this way loses the brace and reach
special weapon features.
Special: A character with the weapon training
(polearms or spears) class feature can use Spear Dancing
Style with any polearm or spear, respectively, in addition
to the chosen weapon.

Prince Oberon style fighting

Ace Trip (Targeting, Weapon Mastery)
You can trip f lying opponents with your ranged attacks.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Deadly Aim, Ranged Trip (Ranged
Tactics Toolbox 9), base attack bonus +6, weapon training
class feature with a ranged weapon.
Benefit: You don’t take the –2 penalty for making trip
attempts with a ranged weapon using Ranged Trip, and
you can attempt special ranged trip combat maneuver
checks against f lying creatures. If the combat maneuver
succeeds, the target falls at a rate of up to 100 feet per
round (assuming it is conscious and attempting to remain
airborne; otherwise, it falls at a rate of 500 feet per round)
until it hits the ground. Upon impact, it falls prone and
takes falling damage (half the normal damage if it
fell 100 feet per round; otherwise, normal damage
for the distance fallen). A falling creature is considered
entangled until it hits the ground, but it can attempt a Fly
check at the start of its turn to stop falling before it hits the
ground (DC = 15 + your base attack bonus); otherwise, it is
unable to move (other than falling) but can act normally.

Works on flying critters not using wings too

Burrowing Shot (Weapon Mastery)
You lodge your ranged weapons within your target’s body.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Deadly Aim, base attack bonus +9,
weapon training class feature with a ranged weapon.
Benefit: When you successfully hit a creature with a
ranged attack, as a swift action, you can have the weapon
(or its ammunition, for projectile weapons) lodge itself
within the creature’s body, causing the creature to take a –2
penalty on ability checks, attack rolls, saving throws, and
skill checks as a result of the intense pain. Penalties from
multiple lodged weapons do not stack. If the creature is a
spellcaster, it gains a 25% spell failure chance with all spells
it casts that include somatic components. This penalty can
be removed with the treat deadly wounds use of the Heal
skill or by removing the lodged weapon as a standard action,
which ends the penalties and causes the creature to take
an amount of damage equal to the weapon’s base damage
(without any bonuses).

Extremely hard to remove special condition

Ricochet Toss (Weapon Mastery)
You are able to angle your thrown weapon attacks in such
a way that the weapon ricochets and immediately returns
to you.
Prerequisites: Quick Draw, base attack bonus +6, weapon
training class feature with a ranged weapon.
Benefit: When you make a ranged attack with an
appropriate thrown weapon, the weapon returns to your
hand immediately after the attack is resolved. This ability
does not allow bullets, thrown ammunition such as darts
or shuriken, or thrown splash weapons to return to you.
Improvised thrown weapons don’t return to you unless
you have the Throw Anything feat.

Free +1 weapon ability

Retributive Kick (Weapon Mastery)
You can use your weapon attacks to set up a foe for an
unarmed strike.
Prerequisites: Improved Unarmed Strike, base
attack bonus +5, weapon training class feature with a
melee weapon.
Benefit: When you make a full attack with an
appropriate melee weapon and your first attack misses
or is blocked, def lected, parried, or otherwise caused to
not hit the target, you can immediately make an unarmed
attack against the same target with the same attack
bonus. You then cannot make any more attacks as part of
that full attack.

Umm... retarded as fuck when getting +6 BAB

Weapon Material Mastery (Weapon Mastery)
You can perform impressive deeds with weapons made
from peculiar materials.
Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +7, weapon training
class feature with a melee weapon.
Benefit: While wielding an appropriate melee weapon,
you gain the following special abilities, based on which
special material the weapon is primarily constructed of
(if any).
Elysium BronzeUE: When you damage a magical beast
or monstrous humanoid, the creature must succeed at a
Fortitude save (DC = 10 + 1/2 your base attack bonus + your
Strength modifier) or lose access to a randomly selected
supernatural or spell-like ability (if any). Once a
creature has been the target of this effect, you
can’t affect it in this way again for 24 hours.
GreenwoodUE or Living SteelUE: When you score a critical
hit, the target must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC = 10
+ 1/2 your base attack bonus + your Strength modifier) or
lose its fast healing and regeneration (if any) for 1d3 rounds.
WhipwoodUE: The weapon gains the trip special weapon
feature, and you gain a +2 bonus on trip combat maneuvers
made with it.

Bronze... very unique
Green/living... troll killer!
Whip... they might have forgotten that trip weapons already grant +2

[Prime32]

WMH is cram-packed with goodies for martial characters, fighters in particular, and even combines easily with DSP's Path of War. It's surprising.
I'm particularly fond of the feat chain that lets you use AoOs to parry ranged attacks, then use AoOs to parry spells and siege weapons, then 1/round use your BAB in place of your saving throw bonus. Or the fighter option that lets them give up one of their extra Weapon Training groups (or take a feat with Weapon Training 1 as a prereq) in exchange for using their BAB in place of their skill ranks for four skills.

On an unrelated note:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/wasp-familiar
Besides being the easiest way to get a familiar in the game (alternatives being a 1~2-level dip, Variant Multiclassing, or the Improved Familiar Bond feat chain), a greensting scorpion grants its master +4 initiative. It's particularly good if you want to take familiar archetypes.

[Mogkiller]

In Pages 36-37, you were talking about Butterfly Sting.
I wanted to add somethings :
- get pounce and a gore attacks (barbarian for spirits), on a ragebred (wereboar) with Boar's Charge
- get a cleric, destruction domain in order to automaticly confirm your crits

Now, charge with your gore attack and land a crit threat that will be automaticly confirmed by the cleric. Transform your normal full-attack to an AoE with whirlwind attack.

Performance Combat, using mocking dance and performance combattant let you get a free move whenever you confirm a critical hit. You may now move at your normal speed between every auto-crit-auto-confirmed crits (add CaGM or Taunting Stance and enjoy the AoO).
Here we are, Pathfinder-nature's way of getting a real cleaver feat that overpass any kind of AC and can be used up to your number of AoO/turn.

And while we are at it, use the "cohort with fine people genius trick" to get yourself a legion of minions with at least performance combat and butterfly sting in order to trample over anything you want.

[Mogkiller]

The Magic section, Combining Magic Effects, says:

Stacking Effects: Spells that provide bonuses or penalties on attack rolls, damage rolls, saving throws, and other attributes usually do not stack with themselves. More generally, two bonuses of the same type don't stack even if they come from different spells (or from effects other than spells; see Bonus Types, above).

Meaning that you can stack any kind of spells that doesn't provide bonuses "on attack rolls, damage rolls, saving throws, and other attributes" (hint, range is not an attribute, neither are evolution points). And that un-type bonuses stacks. By rules, you can overload your-self with courageous enhancement on any part you can over your body to get a lot of bonuses (if you have the money for it, that is).

By the way, it took me time to find it, so it can be worth notifying it here : the table of possible bonuses that can be applied on wondrous items. And the Warrior of the Holy Light will provide you the almighty morale bonus to AC.

[Mogkiller]

Did you know that Siege weapons are special weapons, especially poorly designed?
They are categorized by item's description, not by size, meaning that a Ballista, Light, is Large Size by design, not by use.
When comparing siege weapons to any kind of other weapon, you will notice that the damages are only stated once instead of twice (for Medium and Small), just like bonuses or effect. That's because their damages are fixed and not based on their size (just like special ammunition, or sneak attack).

So, let's get to the point: with Shrink Item you can get yourself a really, really small weapon doing a lot of damage.
Use your siege alchemist and get crazy!

[stanprollyright]

Did you know that Siege weapons are special weapons, especially poorly designed?
They are categorized by item's description, not by size, meaning that a Ballista, Light, is Large Size by design, not by use.
When comparing siege weapons to any kind of other weapon, you will notice that the damages are only stated once instead of twice (for Medium and Small), just like bonuses or effect. That's because their damages are fixed and not based on their size (just like special ammunition, or sneak attack).

So, let's get to the point: with Shrink Item you can get yourself a really, really small weapon doing a lot of damage.
Use your siege alchemist and get crazy!

Umm...I think it would just resort to the regular size chart and go down 4 steps.

[Mogkiller]

Umm...I think it would just resort to the regular size chart and go down 4 steps.

Well, would you step down damage of SA or spells based on its user's size? Would you even change the damage described within the special ammunition? How would you even do that? The special ammunition text doesn't states any reference for base size, and the projectile will always be the same, with the same price, and the same quantity. Haven't you notice that weapon's damage are always describe using "Dmg (S)" and "Dmg (M)" because, officially, PC are considered S or M?

Don't get me wrong: stepping down the damage from 4 steps would be the thing to do. But it just isn't the same as any weapon. The chart you are linking is for "weapon size" which is, by rules, different from "item size", and siege weapons don't have a "weapon size". They have a size which is stated in the description: you cannot make a Ballista, Light that isn't L whereas you can make a C sword.
Moreover, using the same rules that I linked, let's look over the:
"If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all."
Meaning that a M creature could not use the smallest siege weapon. Yet we can, and not because rules don't apply the same way but because a siege weapon's size is included within its description. Think of a crossbow with only one "Dmg" column and specifying "This weapon's damage isn't affected by its size".
Actually, this little sentence is a tacit rule for any kind of bonus.

[MrWolfe]

Honestly, I kind of like the idea of scaling spells up or down based on size. It's always bugged me that an enormous giant or a tiny pixie produces spells with the same area and damage as a regular Joe--especially when the reach and damage of their melee weapons is scaled to their size.

Granted, that would make pixie casters somewhat less dangerous and things like dragons or ogre magi a hell of a lot more frightening, but honestly I think that's more of a feature than a bug--especially when it helps preserve the suspension of disbelief. I mean, what giant would bother with "area" spells that don't even affect the entire space of a creature their size?

[stanprollyright]

"Judge me from a size, do you?"  Magic is separate, and relates to the power of the caster rather than the size of the caster.  It makes sense that way to me.  I wouldn't want the small races to be utterly screwed on damage all the time for everything, nor would i want giants and dragons to do more magic damage from size when they already do more physical damage.

Siege weapons, however, are physical and mundane weapons.  Their damage obviously scales with size.  Think of them as a creature with a natural weapon.  The size of the object is the size of the creature, the damage is based on the creature having that natural weapon at that size.

[Mogkiller]

"Judge me from a size, do you?"

I pledged to only judge by the math, never by the cover!

Magic is separate, and relates to the power of the caster rather than the size of the caster.  It makes sense that way to me.  I wouldn't want the small races to be utterly screwed on damage all the time for everything, nor would i want giants and dragons to do more magic damage from size when they already do more physical damage.

An RPG isn't about making sense, it's about following rules. How could we possibly teleport otherwise? Can you imagine the anatomic's horror of being a centaur? Have you consider that a centaur's brain, being the same as a regular human while having more body parts to manage, will have less room for potential, thus making invalid the "fact" that centaurs are wise?

Siege weapons, however, are physical and mundane weapons.  Their damage obviously scales with size.  Think of them as a creature with a natural weapon.  The size of the object is the size of the creature, the damage is based on the creature having that natural weapon at that size.

The damages of a weapon does scale with size. I never disagree this point. Well, that's not entirely true: the creature (the sword that is) will do the damage of a creature of the upper size: a M sword is actually an S item, just as written here.

My point was that siege weapon are actually miswritten and that the damages doesn't scale like they should do, by rules that is. If you disagree on that point and want to scale, you would have to scale special ammunitions too, and alchemist's bomb while we are at it.
Any houserule or errata would obviously correct that. And any normally functioning GM would put this errata right away. But this thread's name is "Interesting stuff in Pathfinder", and I think that pointing out that, still, by rules, siege weapons don't scale with size is an interesting thing. That also means that your now Very Small Balista, Light will still require the same amount of people to reload and aim than when it was a L item, because the "Load" requirement is written and doesn't depend of the size of the siege weapon, only of what is written in "Table: Ranged Siege Engines".

And if you are stil not convinced, just look at the table of siege weapon and the one for equipment: the siege weapons have only one "Dmg" column, and that is because those weapons aren't designed to be made in other size. You can now look absolutely everywhere in any Paizo stuff. When damages scales there will always be two "Dmg (X)" columns, while non-scalling will only have one. Same for the feats giving natural weapons.
If you want a G Ballista you will create a Gate Breaker, not a Ballista, Light. Whereas your crossbow is a crossbow, whatever its size. A player cannot, by any means, create a Ballista, Light that isn't a L item, otherwise he will design a completely new item, a new entry that is. The entry will have new values, scaled by the chart you linked and houserule for "Crew - Aim - Load" since there's no rule for that.

-- Edit:

Honestly, I kind of like the idea of scaling spells up or down based on size. It's always bugged me that an enormous giant or a tiny pixie produces spells with the same area and damage as a regular Joe--especially when the reach and damage of their melee weapons is scaled to their size.

Granted, that would make pixie casters somewhat less dangerous and things like dragons or ogre magi a hell of a lot more frightening, but honestly I think that's more of a feature than a bug--especially when it helps preserve the suspension of disbelief. I mean, what giant would bother with "area" spells that don't even affect the entire space of a creature their size?

Whoops, didn't saw you. Well, Dragons bother to cast AMF while the description stipulates that some parts of their body will be left out! That would also means that D or lesser creature are totally useless. That would also means that any alchemist can come to a pond, put the regular amount of reagents, create a ([lbs_pound]/[lbs_potion]) * [actual_bomb_dices] damage and then throw a monster in it, destroying its very core. I honestly thing that, at this point, even a god would be crushed by receiving an ocean of bomb in the face. Well, as a DM I would have a minute of silence for the poor boy. Can you imagine the weight of the Earth's ocean? Because I can't!
Ok, I did the math: it looks like there is 1.1*e(12) liter of water on Earth. A vial of potion (filled) is 1 lbs, while the same vial is considered 0 when empty. One liter of water is 1 kg = 2.2 lbs. So there is 1.1*e(12)*2.2 lbs of water. let's say the weight of the reagent is acceptably null.
With 1L of water, you can do 2.2 vials. So the total number of vials doable on Earth is: 2.2 * 1.1 * e(12) = 2.42 * e(12).
A lvl 20 alchemist does 1d6 + 10d6 by vials. If the damage scale you now have nd6 (I'm sorry, I have no data for a weapon of a size of 1.100 km long) + (2.42 * e(13))d6 damage!

[MrWolfe]

"Judge me from a size, do you?"  Magic is separate, and relates to the power of the caster rather than the size of the caster.  It makes sense that way to me.  I wouldn't want the small races to be utterly screwed on damage all the time for everything, nor would i want giants and dragons to do more magic damage from size when they already do more physical damage.

Siege weapons, however, are physical and mundane weapons.  Their damage obviously scales with size.  Think of them as a creature with a natural weapon.  The size of the object is the size of the creature, the damage is based on the creature having that natural weapon at that size.

Honestly, I'm less concerned with damage scaling on spells as I am with area. The whole point of an area effect spell is that it can affect multiple targets, that's why area spells tend to be a higher level than a single target spell of comparable effect. But without scaling, you have titans and dragons creating spells that are needlessly inefficient. A fireball with a 20' radius burst is still a single target spell to a gargantuan or larger creature. It just offers a dex save for half rather than being a ranged touch attack. You don't see medium spellcasters creating many area spells that only effect a single 5-foot square, so why would larger beings do so? This leads to the implication that larger spellcasting races are either stupid (try calling a great wyrm that to it's face) or lazy, (again, good luck) copying spells from medium sized races without bothering to research versions that would be more practical for them.

I mean, you can always say "the gods (ie: the game designers) made all magic work this way, and the inherent medium-creature bias is just a fundamental property of the multiverse", but that just feels like excusing lazy and inconsistent world building to me.

"Judge me from a size, do you?"

I pledged to only judge by the math, never by the cover!

Magic is separate, and relates to the power of the caster rather than the size of the caster.  It makes sense that way to me.  I wouldn't want the small races to be utterly screwed on damage all the time for everything, nor would i want giants and dragons to do more magic damage from size when they already do more physical damage.

An RPG isn't about making sense, it's about following rules. How could we possibly teleport otherwise? Can you imagine the anatomic's horror of being a centaur? Have you consider that a centaur's brain, being the same as a regular human while having more body parts to manage, will have less room for potential, thus making invalid the "fact" that centaurs are wise?

Unless there's some biology splatbook I'm not aware of, we technically have no basis to assume that a centaur's central nervous system is anything like a regular human's. In fact it would make more sense if their internal physiology were radically different from both humans and horses, because how the hell would their cardiovascular and digestive systems work otherwise?

Besides, having less room for "potential" in their neural architecture would be more likely to limit Intelligence rather than Wisdom. Even a common bat has more wisdom than the average human commoner in pathfinder--or the average city guard, for that matter.

Consider that my "interesting find" for this post--and sorry for helping to derail what was a very interesting and potentially exploitable quirk of the RAW.

[edit]

Whoops, didn't saw you. Well, Dragons bother to cast AMF while the description stipulates that some parts of their body will be left out! That would also means that D or lesser creature are totally useless. That would also means that any alchemist can come to a pond, put the regular amount of reagents, create a ([lbs_pound]/[lbs_potion]) * [actual_bomb_dices] damage and then throw a monster in it, destroying its very core. I honestly thing that, at this point, even a god would be crushed by receiving an ocean of bomb in the face. Well, as a DM I would have a minute of silence for the poor boy. Can you imagine the weight of the Earth's ocean? Because I can't!
Ok, I did the math: it looks like there is 1.1*e(12) liter of water on Earth. A vial of potion (filled) is 1 lbs, while the same vial is considered 0 when empty. One liter of water is 1 kg = 2.2 lbs. So there is 1.1*e(12)*2.2 lbs of water. let's say the weight of the reagent is acceptably null.
With 1L of water, you can do 2.2 vials. So the total number of vials doable on Earth is: 2.2 * 1.1 * e(12) = 2.42 * e(12).
A lvl 20 alchemist does 1d6 + 10d6 by vials. If the damage scale you now have nd6 (I'm sorry, I have no data for a weapon of a size of 1.100 km long) + (2.42 * e(13))d6 damage!

See, that's the kind of internally consistent logic I like to see. How awesome would it be for adventurers to be hired to slay some giant because they keep trying to brew a potion in the local fishing hole?

Makes a great evil plot for your BBEG: An ancient dragon plans to use the town lake for his latest potion experiment!

[deadkitten]

Big creatures and centered effects: If a Large or larger creature has up an effect “centered on you,” does that mean that sometimes the emanation doesn’t even affect the creature’s entire space, let alone anything else?

Answer: No, when a creature uses an emanation or burst with the text “centered on you,” treat the creature’s entire space as the spell’s point of origin, and measure the spell’s area or effect from the edges of the creature’s space. For instance, an antimagic field cast by a great wyrm red dragon would extend 10 feet beyond her 30x30 foot space, for a total of a 50 foot diameter.

From what it is worth about the spells and creature size discussion, they released a FAQ not too long ago.

[Mogkiller]

Big creatures and centered effects: If a Large or larger creature has up an effect “centered on you,” does that mean that sometimes the emanation doesn’t even affect the creature’s entire space, let alone anything else?

Answer: No, when a creature uses an emanation or burst with the text “centered on you,” treat the creature’s entire space as the spell’s point of origin, and measure the spell’s area or effect from the edges of the creature’s space. For instance, an antimagic field cast by a great wyrm red dragon would extend 10 feet beyond her 30x30 foot space, for a total of a 50 foot diameter.

From what it is worth about the spells and creature size discussion, they released a FAQ not too long ago.

Wooh, so the description in Way of the Wicked is wrong? Thanks for the intel!

Unless there's some biology splatbook I'm not aware of, we technically have no basis to assume that a centaur's central nervous system is anything like a regular human's. In fact it would make more sense if their internal physiology were radically different from both humans and horses, because how the hell would their cardiovascular and digestive systems work otherwise?

Well, this is based over the fact that a centaur is a human torso over a horse body. Alas, the theory isn't mine. I just happend to like it.

and sorry for helping to derail

You are right, I'm sorry. If anyone want to continue this conversation, I will gladly answer pm.

[Mogkiller]

While talking on Alchemist's bomb, have you noticed the Fire bomber's Fiery Cocktail?
It stipulates that :
"he can split the damage dice evenly between the bomb's primary damage type and 1d6 points of fire damage;" without limiting that to a bomb-based discovery.
Meaning it actually redefines the output of damage dices between your bomb and your bomb for any discovery dealing damages without your real bomb damage. Scrap Bomb will now do a lot more than 1 damage per die of bomb damage.

[phaedrusxy]

Big creatures and centered effects: If a Large or larger creature has up an effect “centered on you,” does that mean that sometimes the emanation doesn’t even affect the creature’s entire space, let alone anything else?

Answer: No, when a creature uses an emanation or burst with the text “centered on you,” treat the creature’s entire space as the spell’s point of origin, and measure the spell’s area or effect from the edges of the creature’s space. For instance, an antimagic field cast by a great wyrm red dragon would extend 10 feet beyond her 30x30 foot space, for a total of a 50 foot diameter.

From what it is worth about the spells and creature size discussion, they released a FAQ not too long ago.

That's awesome. It was one of the stupid rules quirks that always bugged me in 3.X.

[zook1shoe]

- get a cleric, destruction domain in order to automaticly confirm your crits

Now, charge with your gore attack and land a crit threat that will be automaticly confirmed by the cleric. Transform your normal full-attack to an AoE with whirlwind attack.

Cleric 8 is a HUGE investment just for auto-confirmation. Using Disposable Weapon feat and repairing fragile weapons is MUCH more efficient.

What are you trying to do w the charge and full attack thing? I'm confused.

[zook1shoe]

Meaning that you can stack any kind of spells that doesn't provide bonuses "on attack rolls, damage rolls, saving throws, and other attributes" (hint, range is not an attribute, neither are evolution points). And that un-type bonuses stacks. By rules, you can overload your-self with courageous enhancement on any part you can over your body to get a lot of bonuses (if you have the money for it, that is).

Yeaaahhh..... no. It doesn't work that way.

Since 'attribute' doesn't have a game defition, you have to go to the normal definition. Reach is an attribute, evolutions are attributes, size is an attribute... the list goes on. You can't stack long arm reach with itself.

at·trib·ute
noun
ˈatrəˌbyo͞ot/
1.
a quality or feature regarded as a characteristic or inherent part of someone or something.
"flexibility and mobility are the key attributes of our army"
synonyms:   quality, characteristic, trait, feature, element, aspect, property, sign, hallmark, mark, distinction; informalX factor
"he has all the attributes of a top player"

[Mogkiller]

Yeaaahhh..... no. It doesn't work that way.

Since 'attribute' doesn't have a game defition, you have to go to the normal definition. Reach is an attribute, evolutions are attributes, size is an attribute... the list goes on. You can't stack long arm reach with itself.

Your point is interesting and most certainly valid. The only thing I could find is that in Getting Started, it is specified that "all attributes start at a base of 10", but it could be a simple mistake due to the fact they didn't want to repeat "his most basic attributes" once more.

That being said, if we consider every single characteristic of a character being an attribute we have to associate a type to the bonus granted. Since they don't have a defined type of bonus they are considered untyped, therefore they stack with themselves. You can then, by rules, overload yourself with the same effect.
"More generally, two bonuses of the same type don't stack even if they come from different spells"
"A bonus that doesn't have a type stacks with any bonus."

[zook1shoe]

My 5th printing Core has "Each character has six ability scores that represent his
character’s most basic attributes." as the first line of the ability score section pg 15. Also, the next 3 or so mentions of "attribute" said basically the same thing.

The part you seem to be quoting was about purchasing ability points through the point buy system. It's obvious that they used attribute instead of ability score for the point purchase chunk.

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Umm, they really fucked up the Dimensional Pit item from Black Markets...

The extradimensional pit persists for 1 minute before collapsing
(harmlessly expelling any trapped creatures into an adjacent
space) and becoming inert for 24 hours. If the command word
is spoken a second time, a portable pit transforms back into
cloth and can be picked up, moved, or stored.

The trapped creature's are only expelled when the pit collapses on its own, but you can command it to close up before then. Also, they failed to mention that items also pop out. They also failed to add that the pit ALSO goes inert if the command word is spoken before the 1 min mark. OOPS!

Great alternative Portable Hole for much cheaper.

[zook1shoe]

Legalistic curse allows you to roll off the charts on a d100 chart roll