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Re: Repo Dog
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2012, 02:14:56 PM »
I don't think this class is going to be a straight-up power up to most of your base classes (but its likely not a power-down, either), but it certainly wins hands-down for coolness, mostly because of the fluff you've written into the descriptions. :D Not having read over your material thoroughly, would there be an easy way to give this guy an awesome Will save to go with his other all-good saves? Would it be possible to take something like Steadfast Determination? Or are standard D&D feats not allowed? If he could take that, he could almost be a single-stat (Con) character...

Lol.  I think I drank some awesome juice before writing this class.  And yes, steadfast determination is allowed.  :D :D  SAD Con is not something you see very often (DFA is pretty much it, I think).
I think this must be the PrC that Blain (Jesse the Body Ventura's character) had taken in the first Predator movie. :P

In fact... you should change one of the class ability names to "I ain't got time to bleed." in his honor. :cool
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Re: Repo Dog
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 02:18:51 PM »
Sexual Tyrannosaurus (Ex): Repo Dogs deal an additional 2d6 damage against targets of the opposite gender.

Ain't Got Time to Bleed (Ex): Repo Dogs automatically stabilize when brought below 0 hit points.

And for their capstone ability...

Become Governor (Ex): When you gain this ability, your reputation drops to zero and you instantly teleport to a far off state, county, or region where you become a major governing force. When you reach sufficient experience to gain your final level, you can hold off on gaining this level for up to 11 years.
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Re: Repo Dog
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2012, 02:19:27 PM »
In fact... you should change one of the class ability names to "I ain't got time to bleed." in his honor. :cool

Done.


I'm actually contemplating a Domeskipper/Repo Dog/Morphling/Wildling clusterfarg. When i really want this in my build, it's not because it's very powerful(though it is), i could probably make something much more broken with just straight Wildling, but the fluff and the tone of this is just so awesome.

Well... I think maybe being a Mongrelfolk Domeskipper/Morphling/Wildling/Repo Dog might be kind of nuts, since you can take both sets of Racial Sub levels, and if you take 2 levels of Morphling whenever you morph you get your Con as a nat armor bonus to AC as well...
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Re: Repo Dog
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2012, 03:58:10 PM »
In fact... you should change one of the class ability names to "I ain't got time to bleed." in his honor. :cool

Done.


I'm actually contemplating a Domeskipper/Repo Dog/Morphling/Wildling clusterfarg. When i really want this in my build, it's not because it's very powerful(though it is), i could probably make something much more broken with just straight Wildling, but the fluff and the tone of this is just so awesome.

Well... I think maybe being a Mongrelfolk Domeskipper/Morphling/Wildling/Repo Dog might be kind of nuts, since you can take both sets of Racial Sub levels, and if you take 2 levels of Morphling whenever you morph you get your Con as a nat armor bonus to AC as well...

It's a good thing we don't have Fist of the Forest and Deepwarden available eh?   :lmao

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2012, 03:56:52 PM »
Query: Any problem if the Energy Warrior's Energy Beam, and the various Power Suit and energy-type weapon modules qualified and counted for this?

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2012, 03:58:52 PM »
Not at all.  :)
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2012, 09:27:09 PM »
So if I had a class with very unconventional abilities, would levels in Repo Dog increase those if I applied the +1 class level increases to them? Say something like the Nord's Blade, or Paragon:D
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2012, 09:44:10 PM »
Yup.  As long as they were level-based.
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2012, 10:32:13 AM »
Yup.  As long as they were level-based.
Does it need to be a formula, or merely based on level? For example, the # of Fate Dice and Manuevers known for the Nord's Blade both progress with level, but not according to a formula (that I can recognize, anyway).
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2012, 10:33:57 AM »
It's supposed to work on the same terms as Legacy Champion/Uncanny Trickster, if that helps.  I'm not exactly sure what the consensus is for that.
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2012, 10:46:42 AM »
Class features: At each level except 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th, a repo dog gains class features and an increase in effective level as if he had also gained a level in a class to which he belonged before adding the repo dog level.  The specific class features he gains include spells per day (and spells known, if applicable), maneuvers and stances known and readied, evolution 0 damage and attacks, etc.  The repo dog does not, however, gain the benefit of his previous class’s Hit Dice, attack progression, skill points, or saving throws. If he had more than one class before becoming a repo dog, he must decide to which class to add each level for the purpose of determining class abilities.

The way it's written now, you get everything you'd normally get for adding a level, formula or not (even new class features that your original level wasn't high enough for originally).

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2012, 10:52:02 AM »
It's copy/pasted from Legacy Champion and slightly edited... so does LC grant you new class features?

My intention was to continue progression in things you already had (and in that case, Phae, it would progress the stuff you asked about by RAI).  Is there a way to word it to make that clearer?
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2012, 11:08:28 AM »
LC gives more class features. For example Monk 5/Legacy Champion 3 (3 because its 8/10 I think) gets you Wholeness of Body. This is the way it needs to be if you want it to work for Synthevolvers and the like and it's not really broken anyway.

The only way I have ever heard of people actually abusing Legacy Champion was effectively getting 18 levels in a 10 level class for Eldrich blast enhancements and the like.

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2012, 11:11:19 AM »
Well yeah, but RD gives so much better class features than LC...

Either way it would work for synthevolvers, because all their class features they get early, and then progress at given levels.  You don't get much that's brand new at higher levels (other than Final Evolves, of course).
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2012, 11:18:22 AM »
LC is an awful class, not a good thing to balance off anyway but there is basically no harm in leaving the progression of new features in. The class isn't exactly overpowered anyway and your base classes are so strong that it might need that to keep up at higher levels.

On a Fighter or Paladin type character it might be a bit much (not that they don't need the help) but it wasn't designed for them anyway.

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 01:58:43 PM »
This is an amusing class. In fact, my only gripe is that Shrug it Off already has a name: Mettle!
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2012, 02:06:25 PM »
This is an amusing class. In fact, my only gripe is that Shrug it Off already has a name: Mettle!

Yes, true... except that Mettle as a class feature name is much too boring for Repo Dogs to bother with.  :)
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2012, 02:07:32 PM »
This is an amusing class. In fact, my only gripe is that Shrug it Off already has a name: Mettle!
Yes, true... except that Mettle as a class feature name is much too boring for Repo Dogs to bother with.  :)
I figured it might be something along those lines...
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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2012, 02:20:53 PM »
Plus, Hexblades, Crusaders, and other characters with Mettle still have to worry when they're asleep or unconscious. Repo Dogs don't, because they'll probably wake up first.

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Re: Repo Dog [PrC] (Magipunk)
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2012, 04:01:54 PM »
That's if the Repo Dog chooses to sleep like a sissy girl. Little known fact: Repo Dogs can make a melee touch attack against AC 20 to literally punch fatigue in the throat. This also means a Repo Dog can grapple with fatigue and render IT unconscious.

At level 10, a Repo Dog can grapple with concepts like morality and death, who have Touch AC's of 25 and 30, respectively.
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