Author Topic: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?  (Read 3530 times)

Offline Bill Bisco

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Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« on: January 25, 2012, 08:04:18 PM »
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Dear all,

I've been wondering if lost in these theads somewhere anyone has compiled optimized enemies for DMs to use against players.  I'm facing Players often with DPR in the 60s-100s and ACs from 29 to 41 at around 7th-10th level and it'd be nice to have some By the Book enemies to face them off.

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Bill

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 08:53:17 PM »
How are your players covered against flying enemies? What are their non-AC defenses like? You mention that they have a high-ish DPR, but how's their to-hit with it? How well equipped are they to deal with incorporeal enemies?

A few more details on your players would be handy for giving advice.

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 09:46:29 PM »
There used to be a pretty good thread on 339, but I don't know if you can find a version of it that's been saved anywhere...
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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 10:17:23 PM »
I have tons saved up, I just haven't posted them yet.

Hmm to add to the list once I get a place to put them threadz

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 05:04:21 AM »
http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=578.0

Have a look in there, it's a thread about increasing monsters' difficulty without increasing their CR... should be along the lines of what you want.
But you'll have to put in a little work all the same. Ready-to-use optimized monsters/NPCs will not necessarily challenge the specific setup of your group. For example, if the PCs are simply a set of very able bruisers, a single equal level caster can likely shut down large parts of the group, so his summons can mop up the one or two that evade his BC spells. If, on the other hand, your PCs include focused battlefield controllers, you need different tactics - maybe flying, ranged-capable, incorporeal monsters or something?

Also, think about adding a different sort of difficulty to your encounters. For example, my group just had to stomp some seriously underwhelming Gnolls yesterday evening. The problem was, they had hostages, bound to poles, drenched in flammable oil, and standing next to a fireplace. Another hostage was suspended over a rotating sawblade. Well, we won the fight in the end, but our 'score' wasn't perfect for all of that... nuff said.
Hostages, fragile and valuable goods standing around everywhere, a source of "everything blows up" near the battleground, an uncontrolled demon in a calling circle in the middle of the room, a sleeping dragon next door - all those and more can be put to use in order to make fights more challenging without increasing the power of the opposition.

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 01:30:26 PM »
If anyone can dig up a link to the Tucker's Kobolds editorial, that seems perfect. Basically a group of kobolds using guerilla tactics to completely fuck up a high-level group.

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 08:04:16 PM »
If anyone can dig up a link to the Tucker's Kobolds editorial, that seems perfect. Basically a group of kobolds using guerilla tactics to completely fuck up a high-level group.
HERE you go.

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 06:53:37 PM »
Possibly. It depends on what kinds you want.

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Re: Ready to Use Optimized Enemies for DMs?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 01:05:10 AM »
If anyone can dig up a link to the Tucker's Kobolds editorial, that seems perfect. Basically a group of kobolds using guerilla tactics to completely fuck up a high-level group.
HERE you go.
Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen this until now.