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Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« on: February 26, 2012, 03:18:48 PM »
Hey,

What are way for a psion 15 to reload his power points? I spoke with my DM today who said he's fine with recharging pp tricks. (Honestly, a surprise) After which he shot down the earth power + torc (we can pick which item we use, the old one or the MIC one) + bestow power because the text says
"You link your mind with another psionic creature’s mind," Despite what the target line says. Channeling through psicrystal won't work either.
I'm not in agreement with this at all, but anyway: what other methods for recharging are there for psions without affinity field?

thanks in advance,

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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 04:10:27 PM »
He's nerfing Bestow Power in that you can't target yourself?

...that's just stupid.

All the recharge tricks I know (meta/linked, for example) involve Bestow Power.  Maybe you can convince him that Dweomer of Transference is free spell immunity?
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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 04:22:37 PM »
Depends on where a DM draws the lines ; as usual.

Bestow Power then still works on another psionic PC / NPC.
Who then does it right back to you. Leadership or Thrallherd fixes.

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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 05:38:00 PM »
He's nerfing Bestow Power in that you can't target yourself?

...that's just stupid.

All the recharge tricks I know (meta/linked, for example) involve Bestow Power.  Maybe you can convince him that Dweomer of Transference is free spell immunity?
I agree with you on the stupid part especially since he first said that he would allow recharge methods. (Disallowing those I would understand.)




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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 07:16:45 PM »
Found a way to do it, (thanks to awaken_d_m_golem for the suggestion  :) )
I am going to be a thrallherd which gives me believers.

2x lvl 5 psion both have earth power and Torc of Power Preservation (1 borrows one of mine)
They give me pp till they are themselves at 1pp. Then they recharge each other, then they recharge me again. Only problem is that this costs me an extra Torc.
A full recharge of my 270 points would take 270 rounds if my reasoning is correct. Anyone care to verify that?


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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2012, 09:56:43 AM »
Does Body Fuel + Psychic Bastion work for you? 

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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2012, 12:25:01 PM »
Found a way to do it, (thanks to awaken_d_m_golem for the suggestion  :) )
I am going to be a thrallherd which gives me believers.

2x lvl 5 psion both have earth power and Torc of Power Preservation (1 borrows one of mine)
They give me pp till they are themselves at 1pp. Then they recharge each other, then they recharge me again. Only problem is that this costs me an extra Torc.
A full recharge of my 270 points would take 270 rounds if my reasoning is correct. Anyone care to verify that?

Can't they just take turns holding the Torc?

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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2012, 03:40:15 PM »
Found a way to do it, (thanks to awaken_d_m_golem for the suggestion  :) )
I am going to be a thrallherd which gives me believers.

2x lvl 5 psion both have earth power and Torc of Power Preservation (1 borrows one of mine)
They give me pp till they are themselves at 1pp. Then they recharge each other, then they recharge me again. Only problem is that this costs me an extra Torc.
A full recharge of my 270 points would take 270 rounds if my reasoning is correct. Anyone care to verify that?

Can't they just take turns holding the Torc?

Maybe though that does increase the time. I'll check with my DM.

Does Body Fuel + Psychic Bastion work for you? 

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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2012, 06:37:51 PM »
SRD Torc = yes , MIC Torc = no. +1 ppoint per round.
To get the Torc at level 5, you have to visit a pSi-AM'S club.
You only need the one Torc. Handing someone something
is not consuming a big action slot. 270 points takes 27 minutes.
Somebody has to stand guard.



Certain powers change the game, if recharge is available.
Semi-infinite Healing can be trouble, right?
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Re: Reloading PP besides Earth Power
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 10:47:22 AM »
SRD Torc = yes , MIC Torc = no. +1 ppoint per round.
To get the Torc at level 5, you have to visit a pSi-AM'S club.
You only need the one Torc. Handing someone something
is not consuming a big action slot. 270 points takes 27 minutes.
Somebody has to stand guard.

Certain powers change the game, if recharge is available.
Semi-infinite Healing can be trouble, right?

We're using the SRD torc. Handing and then equipping is unfortunatly. Swift+Standard if I'm not mistaken. The standing guard part is no trouble. And since the DM cleared recharge, I'm not too worried.