Fun finds thread V3.0

[Garryl]

Also, bonus fun find.
Strand of Prayer Beads, 25800 gp.
Strand of Prayer Beads without Bead of Smiting, 9000.
Strand of Prayer Beads without Bead of Healing, 16,800 gp.
Strand of Prayer Beads missing all but the Bead of Karma (the good one), 0 gp.
Seriously. it Costs 25800-16800(no smiting)-9000(no healing).
Remove the Bead of Karma instead of the bead of healing and get 1/day cure serious at the cost of -11000 gp.

Standard Prayer Beads are 45800, not 25800.

[jojolagger]

Also, bonus fun find.
Strand of Prayer Beads, 25800 gp.
Strand of Prayer Beads without Bead of Smiting, 9000.
Strand of Prayer Beads without Bead of Healing, 16,800 gp.
Strand of Prayer Beads missing all but the Bead of Karma (the good one), 0 gp.
Seriously. it Costs 25800-16800(no smiting)-9000(no healing).
Remove the Bead of Karma instead of the bead of healing and get 1/day cure serious at the cost of -11000 gp.

Standard Prayer Beads are 45800, not 25800.

My DMG says 25800 gp... So does a friends...
Errata says nothing.
SRD says the same but costs an extra 20000.
Misprinted books?

[SorO_Lost]

I don't think so its misprint per say. More like a clerical error.

It's supposed to add up to 45,800gp, whom ever added it up was an idiot. MiC updates the total value correctly.

[Jackinthegreen]

I don't think so its misprint per say. More like a clerical error.

It's supposed to add up to 45,800gp, whom ever added it up was an idiot. MiC updates the total value correctly.

Obviously wasn't a cloistered cleric that did the math, otherwise it would have worked!  Probably a cleric of Gruumush or something.

[Cagemarrow]

For Vecna Blooded in Eberron go with #1 of the Things You Need to Know (pg 8 of ECS) - "If it exists in D&D, then it has a place in Eberron." Just refluff it to be one of the Dark Six instead, I suggest the Shadow or the Traveler.

[Maat Mons]

Heck, not even wildshaping into a shark will let you breath underwater.

That one they actually did cover by allowing alternate form to grant the aquatic subtype.

Might I ask where? MM and RC mention none of it.

It's in the errata for Monster Manual.  I hadn't noticed it was left out of Rules Compendium. 

[jojolagger]

It's in the errata for Monster Manual.  I hadn't noticed it was left out of Rules Compendium.

And then RC was published after the MM errata. How does the rules priority work if errata is one of the sources, but the other could be seen as primary (Rules Compendium says it includes errata and updates the rules, so in theory it trumps any errata printed before it.)
  Damn it Wizards.

[Prime32]

Dragon #317 has an article on exotic PC races. Of note are the gruwaar (LA +0 Small Fey with claws, +2 Dex/Cha, -2 Str/Wis, +2 Hide/Move Silently/Sleight of Hand, disguise self 1/day; 20ft speed, or 30ft in light armor with both hands free) and the t'kels (LA +0 Monstrous Humanoid with claws and a swim speed, +2 Dex/-2 Int). There's also the adu'jas (LA +2 Plants with +4 bonuses to some skills) and golmoids (LA +1, ignore speed reduction from armor while still having 30ft speed), which could work with LA buyoff.

From the same issue, the Autonomous Harp is a Medium animated object (that can also grant a +2 circumstance bonus to Perform checks) with a sale price of 6,250gp; I don't think I've ever seen a price for one of those before.

The lv4 spell circle of cold is basically a half-range coldball centred on the caster... except that targets who fail their Reflex saves are also paralysed for 1 round. Icy sphere is another evocation at lv5, affecting a line out to Close range and upgrading the paralysis to 1d4 rounds.

The Lady's Gambit feat lets you inflict damage on yourself (capped at your level) to gain a bonus on attack and damage rolls for 1 round equal to half the damage dealt.

Finally, there's a campaign option for the entire party to start with Ancestral Weapons which grant fast healing.

[Scottzar]

It's in the errata for Monster Manual.  I hadn't noticed it was left out of Rules Compendium.

And then RC was published after the MM errata. How does the rules priority work if errata is one of the sources, but the other could be seen as primary (Rules Compendium says it includes errata and updates the rules, so in theory it trumps any errata printed before it.)
  Damn it Wizards.

Monster Manual was reprinted with errata (?) very recently. It gets priority over any non-reprinted book, like the RC.

[awaken_D_M_golem]

That means the kobold could ride a swarm, which would be... strange

Zook, you say strange, I saw awesome. Kobold druid, gliding up to the party, held aloft by his bee swarm. That's all sorts of panache.

Claudia Black gets carried aloft by a swarm
just after this happens (and a grizzly touch).

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Reading up on this caused me to notice something.  Mulhorandi divine minions can wild shape unlimited times per day as a free action.  Wild shape heals a few hit points each time you use it.  There is no limit to the number of free actions you can take each round.  So you get infinite healing on your turn for +1 LA. 

Edit: Oh, hey, this is my 666th post.

Wait ... so a certain Sorc 1 / Divine Minion +1
doesn't bother with that whole MoMF 3 and
cantankerous trickination ?!
 

[SorO_Lost]

Let me guess, you have never actually read the Pun-Pun post have you?

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It uses Divine Minion.

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MoMF 3 is to increase your possible forms and the HD cap that comes with 11th level Wild Shape.

[jojolagger]

Wild shape heals a few hit points each time you use it.

No. Polymorph restores hp on use. Wildshape is based on alternate form, which doesn't restore hp. MM specifically points out alternate form not restoring hp as being main point of difference between it and polymorph.
Sorry, fun idea, but doesn't work.

[Maat Mons]

Wildshape is based on alternate form, which doesn't restore hp.

Yes, but wild shape overrides that with the line “Each time you use wild shape, you regain lost hit points as if you had rested for a night.”  (It's in the errata.) 

[jojolagger]

Wildshape is based on alternate form, which doesn't restore hp.

Yes, but wild shape overrides that with the line “Each time you use wild shape, you regain lost hit points as if you had rested for a night.”  (It's in the errata.)

I need to just spend some time reading through the errata like I spend reading the books...

[Maat Mons]

Volley commander (Dragon 348, p93), a new commander aura (Heroes of Battle, p75) gives a volley of arrows (Heroes of Battle, p68) +1 damage per archer.  As a rough estimate, just going by area, you can fit 113 archers in the 30-foot radius of the aura.  Dealing 100+ damage to everything in a massive area every round is really impressive for a bunch of conscripts and one sergeant.  Unfortunately, it's ref negates, not ref half. 

[Garryl]

On the upside, Ref negates means Improved Evasion does nothing, so you can do slightly better against familiars and high level Monks and Rogues.

[SorO_Lost]

lol

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Let me guess, you have never actually read the Pun-Pun post have you?

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It uses Divine Minion.

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MoMF 3 is to increase your possible forms and the HD cap that comes with 11th level Wild Shape.

  ... you mean you'd risk Infinite Healing for
being passed out 2d4 rounds time and time again?

_{yes I've read the pun-pun thread ... (sigh)}

[SorO_Lost]

What?

Also. Per Realmshelp A&E has a +3 Huge Longspear named Piercing Tongue of Kath Kadan that deals +1d8 Fire damage. It costs 18,810gp.
That's 18,000 for +3 and 300 for Masterwork. Not sure on a Huge Longspear's cost, but it's 5gp for Medium and calling it 10gp.
It means for around 500gp you can augment +1d8 damage on to your weapon. It's cheaper and better than adding Flaming.

Go for broke and ask your DM for elemental variance, then buy them all. Acid, Cold, Electricity, Fire and 2,000gp means +4d8 damage.