Author Topic: Need advice optimizing a Wu Jen martial character using Body Outside Body  (Read 2565 times)

Offline Sachiru

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Before we begin, a few things:


Starting Level: Level 15
Starting Wealth: WBL, level 15
Alignment: Must be good
Ability Scores: 36 PB
HP: Max first average everything else.


Must use Wu Jen's Body Outside Body. DM ruled that Body Outside Body clones can initiate maneuvers, BUT:
Body Outside Body clones would have your initiator level / number of clones. Assume a character with IL 20, and four B.O.B. clones, each clone gets IL 5.
Clones cannot use any other abilities. Clones cannot initiate Su maneuvers.


Game is duel type, classic good vs. evil, both good and evil sides are played by PCs.


Ancient Temple and/or Doll Judgement may be used.


Goal is crowd control character, and possibly use B.O.B. defensively.


So, please help me?
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I'm guessing white raven tactics is out? If not, um, lots of extra turns are nice.
I suspect you won't have high enough IL for Slash of the Eternity, but negating celerities and such seems pretty good.
Do the clones get your higher level maneuvers, but at a low IL, or are they constrained to those they could actually learn?


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I'm guessing white raven tactics is out? If not, um, lots of extra turns are nice.
I suspect you won't have high enough IL for Slash of the Eternity, but negating celerities and such seems pretty good.
Do the clones get your higher level maneuvers, but at a low IL, or are they constrained to those they could actually learn?


They are constrained to your IL list, but they cannot use maneuvers that are illegal for their IL.


Thus, they cannot get maneuvers that you don't have, and cannot use manuevers that are too high for their IL.
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So, tips?
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body outside of body has a fixed range so.... persist ;D also white raven tactics would completely kill. You want good defensive maneuvers... wall of blades comes to mind at low level. Also an interesting idea would be to have a bunch of spike chains and do a semi-tripper build since you cant cast spells in this form you might as well use you feats for something useful. If you have your main character on  with you in a fight then It should be casting spells, no questions asked. What I am more interested in right now is if you can get a viable character who uses these bodies outside of body to fight while not in danger at all.
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