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Offline Thurbane

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[3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:11:43 PM »
One of the simple variants in UA:
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Some wizards trade their knowledge of magic and craft to improve their combat prowess.
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Bonus feat list (as fighter; bonus feats gained at 1st level and every five levels as wizard).
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Scribe Scroll, wizard bonus feat list.

Now generally speaking, bonus Metamagic and Item Creation feats are going to be far better for  Wizard build than Fighter feats, but if you take this variant for whatever reason (say, you're an Archivist/Wizard theruge, and you're already getting Scribe Scroll as a bonus feat), what Fighter feats would be a good fit for most Wizards?

Improved Initiative seems a no-brainer, and maybe Improved Toughness. What others might be worthwhile?

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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 10:18:03 PM »
martial study and martial stance, from tome of battle...
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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 10:24:08 PM »
martial study and martial stance, from tome of battle...

Good idea - what manouvres and stance would you pick up?

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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 03:06:57 AM »
Assuming a full Wizard, and one that PrCs out @6, only L1 maneuvers are available.  Moment of Perfect Mind is probably the best.

If you delayed that one level (such as Wizard4/Martial Adept1/Wiz+1), you could get L2 maneuvers.  Shadow Jaunt is wonderful for non-combat teleportation, Shield Block & Zephyr Dance help with AC, and Action Before Thought aids with the occasional Reflex save.
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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 09:12:59 AM »
Assuming a full Wizard, and one that PrCs out @6, only L1 maneuvers are available.  Moment of Perfect Mind is probably the best.

If you delayed that one level (such as Wizard4/Martial Adept1/Wiz+1), you could get L2 maneuvers.  Shadow Jaunt is wonderful for non-combat teleportation, Shield Block & Zephyr Dance help with AC, and Action Before Thought aids with the occasional Reflex save.
Or grab a level of Master Specialist before the 5th level feat?
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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 12:08:56 PM »
Can use them to get into Prestige Classes, such as:

Point Blank Shot for Spellwarp Sniper

Weapon Focus (Dagger) and/or Two Weapon fighting for Daggerspell Mage

Martial Weapon Proficiency for late entry Abjurant Champion without loss of caster levels.


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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 05:08:33 PM »
Could you use the variant to get Fighter bonus feats, and then swap the Fighter bonus feats for sneak attack?  That way you could get into Unseen Seer, Spellwarp Sniper, or Arcane Trickster without actually losing any caster levels.

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Re: [3.5] Fighter bonus feats for Wizards
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 09:08:00 PM »
Would you be willing to mix ACFs?  Complete Champion allows you to take a domain power instead of a feat at level 5, so you could get improved initiative at level 1 and a domain power at level 5.