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Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« on: May 05, 2012, 09:21:28 AM »
Hello there min/maxers. I hope you are all having a nice weekend.

As my dear Archivist (level 9) and I found out last week, spell resistance hurts a spellcaster alot. Since the game I am currently playing will lead the party into the underdark, I think the spellresistance of all the damn drow will become a big problem unless I find a way around it.

I have been trying to look into ways to get around it, but so far I can't really say I have found anything good. Below are the things my searching came up with.
  • There is true casting on a wand, but that would limit me to one spell every second round. (Assuming I beat the UMD check or my access to the magic domain (through planar touchstone) allows me to use it as a wizard of half my archivist level).
  • There is the orb line in spell compendium, but those are only for sorc/wiz.  :(
  • There is assay resistance. This seems like the best of the ones I have found, but using up a 4:th level spell for each enemy, at each encounter seems a bit much. Also, I can't afford a wand costing 21k right now.

Any and all help in finding a way to hurt the drow etc. would be very appriciated, be it spells that helps overcoming SR checks, spells without SR or anything else.
Assume all books are allowed and that money/feat/dips is not a problem.

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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 09:26:09 AM »
The two techniques are: 1) use spells which don't allow SR; generally these are Conjuration spells, which the Archivist rocks at.  2) boosting your CL, which is something that you want to do anyway.

An archivist shouldn't be blasting, leave the orbs for the Mailman.  As for CL, what's your build?  What feats do you have?
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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 09:43:41 AM »
As for conjuration, we have a conjurer wizard going for malconvoker. I could get summons, but we already have someone dropping out big nasty things. Are there any other spells that does not allow SR? I am planning on being more of a debuffer, but I realized last week all my debuffs (and nearly all other spells) are subject to SR.

As for the build, here you have it. I am currently level 9. Everything above that level is just my current plan.
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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 02:55:26 AM »
Academic Priest has to be taken at level 1.  Technically.

Also, Channel Charge (LEoF) + Wand of Assay Spell Resistance could be handy....

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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 04:59:38 PM »
Academic Priest has to be taken at level 1.  Technically.

Also, Channel Charge (LEoF) + Wand of Assay Spell Resistance could be handy....
Corrected the build in my post. So now it is correct.

I fear I don't quite understand the benefit of Channel Charge + wand of assay spell res. I cast assay as a level 5 spell instead of level 4, if I hold a wand and have UMD. Why is this good?


Currenly looking into spells that don't offer/bypass spell resistance (e.g. arc lightning and swamp lung, spell compendium). Contributions are welcome.

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Edit: Oh. And yes, I know the summon M/NA/U are not subject to SR. But I am looking for things that does not summon mosters or similar (i.e. Evard's blank tentacles and the like are interesting, Summon monster and the like are not so interesting). /Y
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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 09:48:12 PM »
Academic Priest has to be taken at level 1.  Technically.

Also, Channel Charge (LEoF) + Wand of Assay Spell Resistance could be handy....
Corrected the build in my post. So now it is correct.

I fear I don't quite understand the benefit of Channel Charge + wand of assay spell res. I cast assay as a level 5 spell instead of level 4, if I hold a wand and have UMD. Why is this good?


Currenly looking into spells that don't offer/bypass spell resistance (e.g. arc lightning and swamp lung, spell compendium). Contributions are welcome.

Kindly
Yirrare

Edit: Oh. And yes, I know the summon M/NA/U are not subject to SR. But I am looking for things that does not summon mosters or similar (i.e. Evard's blank tentacles and the like are interesting, Summon monster and the like are not so interesting). /Y

From the way you were talking, i was assuming you didn't have assay on your spell list.  if you have it, why even need this thread?

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Re: Overcoming spell resistance (as an archivist).
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 07:06:38 AM »
From the way you were talking, i was assuming you didn't have assay on your spell list.  if you have it, why even need this thread?
It is not on my list now, but I think I migth get a scroll with it.
I was looking into other alternatives as assay spell resistance would require one 4th level spell for each enemy I face, on top of the other spells I want to cast.

Sorry if I was unclear.
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