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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2012, 08:49:18 AM »
Considering there are are relatively trivial (at high level) ways of getting all-day music, there's no need to go RKV for that.  The inherent quicken awesomeness of RKV, on the other hand, is a reason to go RKV.
Such as?  I can't recall any from the Bard's handbook. 

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2012, 09:04:52 AM »
Metamagic Song + Persist + Lingering Chorus.  It only gets you 1, though.
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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2012, 09:16:30 AM »
Thanks.  I sort of assumed they would involve Persist Spell, which is kind of a big commitment to pull off. 

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2012, 09:34:11 AM »
Thanks.  I sort of assumed they would involve Persist Spell, which is kind of a big commitment to pull off.
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree that the investment needed for this would qualify as "non-trivial" in most games.
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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2012, 10:20:33 AM »
As far as RKV is concerned, Bard/Crusader/Ur Priest/RKV is a fun gish.  It doesn't really keep advancing as a bard though.

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2012, 11:27:10 AM »
As far as RKV is concerned, Bard/Crusader/Ur Priest/RKV is a fun gish.  It doesn't really keep advancing as a bard though.
That's what I was going to say.  The Bard there isn't doing any work. 

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2012, 02:39:04 PM »
Don't forget Words of Creation (BoED) to double your Inspire Courage bonus, and/or a Vest of Legends [the bard version of the Monk's Belt] (MIC) to push your effective bard level higher.  Any legal combination of Bard, Swiftblade, Sublime Chord, and Abjurant Champion would probably work just fine for what you're looking for.

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2012, 02:40:16 AM »
I thought there were some listed in the bard's handbook.  I see now that there aren't.  I also though that there was an easier way than Lingering Chorus to do it.. meh.  I can't be fucked looking through 15 books for the spell i'm thinking of.  You can just subsonically strum your lute until combat starts.

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2012, 05:59:32 PM »
I thought there were some listed in the bard's handbook.  I see now that there aren't.  I also though that there was an easier way than Lingering Chorus to do it.. meh.  I can't be fucked looking through 15 books for the spell i'm thinking of.  You can just subsonically strum your lute until combat starts.

Right, because maintaining concentration on a music for half a day while waiting for combat is so practical when you have other things to do, like say, negotiate with a Warlord, help feed a city under siege, etc, etc.

Just go with the Use Activated Lute of Harmonize.

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Re: Bard-based gish builds?
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2012, 08:47:10 AM »
Where is it from?

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/prc/20070327

Just ignore the 10th level since it won't help much, but that leaves 9 levels of awesome.