Author Topic: Fiendform Spell - Optimal Forms for the Ex, Su & Sp Abilities!  (Read 4531 times)

Offline Burl

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Hi Everyone

The Fiendform spell (SpC) is everyone's favorite springboard to fully optimizing Polymorph or Draconic Polymorph.  But if you are aiming to optimize just the spell itself (Fiendform), I'm curious what everybody's selections are for favorite forms.  Both for power and utility.

The good news is that the fiendish creature, demon or devil that you assume, can be from all those amazing-&-expanded alternate SMI-to-SMIV lists located in all the various Monster Manuals and 3.5 splatbooks. 

Remember, the spell is like Alter Self, but you gain the form's (Ex), (Sp) and (Su) as well as the Alter Self goodies (like racial and size bonuses/penalties).  The spell is persistable too!

Right off the bat, the Gadacro demon from MMV looks like a very strong candidate.  I'll post more later.  But I'm sure all you optimization experts have even better selections.

Finally, if you search here at MM or BG or on Google, you'll find this spell gets namedropped a lot.   But there's never any mention of *best forms to assume*!  Hence the reason for this thread.

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Re: Fiendform Spell - Optimal Forms for the Ex, Su & Sp Abilities!
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 09:25:46 PM »
Any suggestions or preferred forms by you guys?

Thank you.

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Re: Fiendform Spell - Optimal Forms for the Ex, Su & Sp Abilities!
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 05:30:52 AM »
Fiendform allows you to take the form of any Fiendish creature, any devil, or any demon you could summon with summon monster 1-4.

Dretch seems spiffy for the 100' telepathy, though the target must be able to understand Abyssal.

Yeth Hound offers +8 natural armor and a 60' fly speed (good).  DR 10/Silver helps a bit, too.

Otherwise, fiendform is too weak to use.  At least it's a springboard for polymorph and co!

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Re: Fiendform Spell - Optimal Forms for the Ex, Su & Sp Abilities!
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 05:07:40 AM »
White Abishai FTW!! not only it offers 3 immunities (cold fire poison) but regeneration as well! It also gifts you U with a few (Sp) abilities SR and fly speed. Also If you pare It with Dragonic polymorph you can turn into a tank (Jarilith with 43 Str plus immunity to electricity) or a scout\trapspringer (Movanic daeva with immunity to electricity AND petrification). Remember that although you get the creature's type via Fiendform you do NOT get it's subtypes so you cannot lose the abilities you already posess.
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Re: Fiendform Spell - Optimal Forms for the Ex, Su & Sp Abilities!
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2012, 02:57:57 PM »
Yeth Hound offers +8 natural armor and a 60' fly speed (good).  DR 10/Silver helps a bit, too.
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