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ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« on: May 28, 2012, 12:36:27 AM »
I've got 90+ spells I've gotta wade through and would like some PEACHing

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 12:41:57 AM »
Sounds fun, I'm game. Why don't you post them into the thread, though?

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 12:44:57 AM »
I've already posted the rough draft in homebrew.  Since I'm using that thread for creation i thought I'd ask about feedback elsewhere to keep it from being too cluttered.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2012, 12:46:24 AM »
I've already posted the rough draft in homebrew.  Since I'm using that thread for creation i thought I'd ask about feedback elsewhere to keep it from being too cluttered.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 12:52:16 AM »

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 02:25:28 AM »
Alms shouldn't work the way it's worded. The only downside of owning items with vow of poverty is you just broke your vow, thus lost its benefits. Without its benefits, there's no downside.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 01:50:14 PM »
I haven't finished the descriptions yet, I was going to announce when the spells were ready :D  I kinda wanted to see if anyone was interested in critique before i began.

Alms will be quite nasty when finished I assure you...

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 04:07:30 AM »
I could give it a shot, too.  Post when you're ready, and I'll take a look on my next shift(s) at work (night shift concierge - lots of time to use the internet after 11pm).
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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 12:21:51 AM »
Alms, Amazon Thighs, Beastmind, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Genderosity and Ghost Dad have rough drafts ready

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2012, 12:56:16 AM »
For most of your spells, I would suggest making the duration permanent instead, but make the spell a curse, including the much more limited fashion of removing it.

Alms: With the added penalties after ignoring the curse for a week or more, it would be more in line with the power of Greater Bestow Curse, and probably deserving of a higher level slot.

Amazon Thighs: you should specify an exact penalty to Move Silently, because as written anyone anywhere will auto-succeed their listen check to hear the character, even on the other side of the world.  Maybe make all the skill penalties a -10?  I'd suggest renaming it to Thunder Thighs, too, because amazons don't evoke the same kind of feel the spell is going for.

Beastmind: looks alright so far, other than the curse change mentioned above.

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: you could add in something about normal activities take 1/8th the normal time before checking for fatigue, so crafting or walking for longer than 1 hour would evoke constitution checks for fatigue.  And maybe rename the spell to Asthmatic Curse, or something like it?

Genderosity: in BoEF, Reverse Gender is a 3rd level spell and lasts for 1 hour/level.  A permanent curse that can do more than just that should probably be at least 4th level, even for a curse specialist class.

Ghost Dad: other than the curse change mentioned above, I'd just suggest going for a better spell name.  Spectral Vengeance maybe?  Or Haunt of the Victim?
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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 01:12:51 AM »
Peek at the core class above the spells, they're all considered Curses.

Alms: I meant to change spell level.  I forgot about that.

CFS: What if i make it the victims is Fatigues until the curse is removed?

These are kind of meant for a silly campaign hence the names.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2012, 01:25:25 AM »
Peek at the core class above the spells, they're all considered Curses.
Ah, that covers that, then.

CFS: What if i make it the victims is Fatigues until the curse is removed?
That could work, too.  It would be a lot simpler, and you can just leave in the part about doing anything that would make you fatigued will make you exhausted instead.

These are kind of meant for a silly campaign hence the names.
Okay, then I won't suggest any more renames.  Most of them are pretty silly sounding.
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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2012, 02:02:27 AM »
Genderosity: in BoEF, Reverse Gender is a 3rd level spell and lasts for 1 hour/level.  A permanent curse that can do more than just that should probably be at least 4th level, even for a curse specialist class.

BoEF is horribly balanced.

24 hour shaken is in no way comparable to a 4th level spell.... see Lesser Geas, Mass Reduce Persron or Phantasmal Killer.

Honestly the duration isn't likley to matter, combat should be over in 2-3 rounds anyway so an offensive spell might as well have a duration of instantaneous for all it matters. 

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2012, 02:13:26 AM »
BoEF is horribly balanced.

24 hour shaken is in no way comparable to a 4th level spell.... see Lesser Geas, Mass Reduce Persron or Phantasmal Killer.

Honestly the duration isn't likley to matter, combat should be over in 2-3 rounds anyway so an offensive spell might as well have a duration of instantaneous for all it matters. 

Change Sex from Nymphology is also a 3rd level spell and lasts for 30 min/lv.

But it's more than the shaken effect.  It's the roleplay effect it has, which is why the spells are higher than 2nd level.  I know that's not something that is taken into account very often, especially on these boards, but it should be.  Changing a person's gender permanently should be the equivalent of Bestow Curse, at least.
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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2012, 02:17:13 AM »
Bestow curse is more than twice as powerful.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2012, 04:40:33 PM »
Descriptions have been revised again along with spell level.  The following are also ready: Da Vice, Disturb Pregnancy, Fetish Monkey, Love Spell, Master of Your Domain, and Matrimonial Horror.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2012, 05:04:53 PM »

... Amazon Thighs ...



...Thunder Thighs ...


American Thighs
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Causes Armor Penalty of -1 , Suffocation roll penalty of -1 ,
Saves versus Cold penalty of -1 ,
but automatically improves Diplo checks by 1 category and
opposed Listen and Spot checks in male of species penalty of -5.
Should be Augmentable in some way.


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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2012, 08:31:55 PM »
Da Vice: You could get very nasty very easily with this spell (stop breathing!), but by 7th level, stunning is easy enough to gain immunity to.  Looks fine as is, though if you wanted to tone down the potential abusiveness of it, you could probably lower it to 6th or even 5th level.

Disturb Pregnancy: I would limit it to just one choice from the list, as a 4th level spell.  Make a greater version that's level 6 or 7 to allow multiple, maybe?  And as for returning the child to human, I would suggest changing it to "(i.e. if deformed they become normal or if its race/gender is altered they return to normal)", just in case they weren't actually human to begin with.

Fetish Monkey: A nasty spell, but it looks right for its level.

Love Spell: Maybe instead of suicide for good characters, it should be a deep depression where they take a -4 penalty on all rolls, and a 25% chance they don't even act.  A good character would still care enough about others they would not want to inflict suffering due to their own death on their loved ones.  Neutrals should be the ones to commit suicide, as they are more self-centred.

Master of Your Domain: As written, this spell would cause most characters to heavily violate their alignments, so I would strongly suggest upping the spell's level.  Maybe 7th or so.  Also, since it's a compulsion, you should also mark it as Mind-Affecting.

Matrimonial Horror: It looks like there should be an exception written in, where if the target of the spell isn't actually strongly desired by the one named, the spell automatically fails.
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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2012, 01:06:53 AM »
spells revised


Delicious, Illegal Thoughts, Incurable Plague, Inappropriately Timed Vomiting, and Invert Personality are a go.

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Re: ANyone up for reviewing some spells?
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 01:33:33 AM »
Delicious: You could probably lower it to 6th level.

Illegal Thoughts: Looks good for its level.

Incurable Plague: If it were not for the deceptiveness to divinations about its nature, I would tell you to lower the spell level.  As is, it looks good.

Inappropriately Timed Vomiting: It should be listed with "Target: single living creature" instead of the 15' cone line, because the spell affects only one creature, which gets the cone later, at the designated time.  You could probably also make this a 5th or possibly 4th level spell.  Oh, and it should come before Incurable Plague on the list if you want to keep it alphabetical.

Invert Personality: Looks good.  Don't need to change a thing.
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